Newcastle, UK to Newcastle, Australia...Part 2 · Makin Moves with Matt Podcast · Radar

The Khyber Pass Border Crossing32:09 – 34:24

Curtis JonesGuest

32:09

Uh, so I crossed probably...

Curtis JonesGuest

32:10

I mean, we were talking about land borders before.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:12

The craziest one I've ever crossed is the Khyber Pass from Afghanistan into Pakistan, which was wow.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:18

Like, I, I, I have never seen anything like that in my life.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:22

I mean, talking about whether I'd do things again or not, not sure I'd ever do [laughs] that border again.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:27

It was terrifying.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:28

So yeah, I, I spent a bit of time hanging out on my own in Kabul, which was really cool.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:31

It was nice to be there without the guide.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:33

I mean, he was wonderful, but you know, you get a different experience when you're by yourself.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:37

But, um, I, I got to the point where I thought I...

Curtis JonesGuest

32:40

This is a lot day-to-day.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:42

I think I'm ready to move on now.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:44

And so I, I went to Pakistan, and I got the, the, a taxi to, to the border.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:49

Even on the way to the border, we got pulled over and my taxi driver got arrested by the [laughs] Taliban because I, I guess he didn't have the right documents or something.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:56

But, um, we got turned around, which was honestly surreal.

Curtis JonesGuest

33:00

I got this video of me sitting in between the driver and the front passenger because the Taliban guy had got in the back with everyone [laughs] out and told this taxi driver, "You've got to drive yourself to, to the police house in Kabul," or whatever.

Curtis JonesGuest

33:14

[laughs] He said, you know, "It's not like-"

MattHost

33:16

What?

Curtis JonesGuest

33:16

Yeah.

Curtis JonesGuest

33:17

It's like in another country where they'd be like, "Okay, get into this police car and we'll take you away." He was like, "No, no, no, you're driving yourself." Yeah, so we got driven back to the taxi rank and we had to get a new taxi driver obviously, um, 'cause our guy was not having a good day.

Curtis JonesGuest

33:29

Um, but yeah, we got a new guy and he drove us to the border and...

Curtis JonesGuest

33:34

I mean, it's just feral wasteland.

Curtis JonesGuest

33:36

I mean, it's all Afghan refugees trying to get into Pakistan, and they've got these huge camps of people just in the worst conditions imaginable, on the edge, you know.

Curtis JonesGuest

33:46

As you can imagine, I became a pretty big target for, [laughs] um, for the attentions of the people there.

Curtis JonesGuest

33:52

Mostly negative in that, in that situation, which was kind of scary.

The Khyber Pass Border Crossing32:09 – 34:24

Curtis JonesGuest

32:09

Uh, so I crossed probably...

Curtis JonesGuest

32:10

I mean, we were talking about land borders before.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:12

The craziest one I've ever crossed is the Khyber Pass from Afghanistan into Pakistan, which was wow.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:18

Like, I, I, I have never seen anything like that in my life.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:22

I mean, talking about whether I'd do things again or not, not sure I'd ever do [laughs] that border again.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:27

It was terrifying.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:28

So yeah, I, I spent a bit of time hanging out on my own in Kabul, which was really cool.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:31

It was nice to be there without the guide.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:33

I mean, he was wonderful, but you know, you get a different experience when you're by yourself.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:37

But, um, I, I got to the point where I thought I...

Curtis JonesGuest

32:40

This is a lot day-to-day.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:42

I think I'm ready to move on now.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:44

And so I, I went to Pakistan, and I got the, the, a taxi to, to the border.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:49

Even on the way to the border, we got pulled over and my taxi driver got arrested by the [laughs] Taliban because I, I guess he didn't have the right documents or something.

Curtis JonesGuest

32:56

But, um, we got turned around, which was honestly surreal.

Curtis JonesGuest

33:00

I got this video of me sitting in between the driver and the front passenger because the Taliban guy had got in the back with everyone [laughs] out and told this taxi driver, "You've got to drive yourself to, to the police house in Kabul," or whatever.

Curtis JonesGuest

33:14

[laughs] He said, you know, "It's not like-"

MattHost

33:16

What?

Curtis JonesGuest

33:16

Yeah.

Curtis JonesGuest

33:17

It's like in another country where they'd be like, "Okay, get into this police car and we'll take you away." He was like, "No, no, no, you're driving yourself." Yeah, so we got driven back to the taxi rank and we had to get a new taxi driver obviously, um, 'cause our guy was not having a good day.

Curtis JonesGuest

33:29

Um, but yeah, we got a new guy and he drove us to the border and...

Curtis JonesGuest

33:34

I mean, it's just feral wasteland.

Curtis JonesGuest

33:36

I mean, it's all Afghan refugees trying to get into Pakistan, and they've got these huge camps of people just in the worst conditions imaginable, on the edge, you know.

Curtis JonesGuest

33:46

As you can imagine, I became a pretty big target for, [laughs] um, for the attentions of the people there.

Curtis JonesGuest

33:52

Mostly negative in that, in that situation, which was kind of scary.