Jun 29, 2026 · 31 min · 14 segments
What if the habit you rely on to “take the edge off” is actually the thing keeping you stuck? In this episode of *Main Street Success Stories*, Jennifer Kok sits down with Cari Walters, a sober…
Cari WaltersGuest
Jennifer KochHost
you were, sorry, you were in this phase of life where you're a busy mom, you're working.

And so your relaxation became like what you said, you would go to a glass of wine.

But being sober, curious, alcohol-free, that's different than alcoholic, right? Can you help us

And my belief system, so if someone has alcohol use disorder or considered alcoholic, that means they're using it to function in life.

And I don't even really like that term because I also think that kind of puts us down as a society, like something's wrong with you.

And so even that term, I'm not a huge fan of, but that's how I would describe alcohol use disorder or alcoholic is you can't live without it.

They notice that they're using wine to unwind or they're using a vice to help them kind of take the edge off.

And they're wondering, how come I keep going to that? And all of a sudden, curiosity interrupts autopilot and we start to become more mindful of of drinking.

So it doesn't necessarily mean you're going to quit drinking, but like you're curious.

If I have a drink, what does happen? Okay, if I have two drinks, what happens? How do I feel? It's really learning in your sober curious journey to get the emotions behind it.

That means they need to go someplace to be detoxed and get off the substance in a safe and healthy way and then go to what they call is rehab.

And rehab is just helping them learn to function again, kind of as a human and how do I, what works for me kind of thing.

And then, which is very different from being sober curious because sober curious, you're not dependent on the substance to function.

Okay, so it's more of just a habitual, like you just get in the habit of doing it.

It's interesting because in the last couple of years, there's been a huge shift on social media.

you were, sorry, you were in this phase of life where you're a busy mom, you're working.

And so your relaxation became like what you said, you would go to a glass of wine.

But being sober, curious, alcohol-free, that's different than alcoholic, right? Can you help us

And my belief system, so if someone has alcohol use disorder or considered alcoholic, that means they're using it to function in life.

And I don't even really like that term because I also think that kind of puts us down as a society, like something's wrong with you.

And so even that term, I'm not a huge fan of, but that's how I would describe alcohol use disorder or alcoholic is you can't live without it.

They notice that they're using wine to unwind or they're using a vice to help them kind of take the edge off.

And they're wondering, how come I keep going to that? And all of a sudden, curiosity interrupts autopilot and we start to become more mindful of of drinking.

So it doesn't necessarily mean you're going to quit drinking, but like you're curious.

If I have a drink, what does happen? Okay, if I have two drinks, what happens? How do I feel? It's really learning in your sober curious journey to get the emotions behind it.

That means they need to go someplace to be detoxed and get off the substance in a safe and healthy way and then go to what they call is rehab.

And rehab is just helping them learn to function again, kind of as a human and how do I, what works for me kind of thing.

And then, which is very different from being sober curious because sober curious, you're not dependent on the substance to function.

Okay, so it's more of just a habitual, like you just get in the habit of doing it.

It's interesting because in the last couple of years, there's been a huge shift on social media.
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