Sep 23, 2026 · 45 min · 12 segments
Joining us in this episode of Living Off Rentals is Dustin Heiner, a real estate investor behind several podcasts, including Master Passive Income, and the man behind Income Builder - a new tool that…
Dustin HeinerGuest
Kirby AtwellHost
And I guess when we were talking, one of the challenges that we had or that we were talking through is like, what do you call it? How do you categorize this software? Because it's not really like a property management software anymore.

I mean, there's analysis tools in there that it tracks your progress toward your financial freedom goal.

So what I guess, how would you sum it up now that you've had, you know, I guess, time since we talked to think about it? And then what do you feel like are maybe some of the biggest, biggest challenges that people run into or problems that

Now, if you think, well, if you've listened to any of my episodes that I've been on here with Kirby, you've heard me say we need to build the business first.

An investor is somebody who puts their money in the stock market and just hopes the value goes up.

Because you're listening to Kirby's podcast, you come back every week to listen to Kirby's podcast.

And when you build that business, you need a system, a complete package that helps you to run that business.

Big companies, they have a back-end system that helps them run their business.

And I guess when we were talking, one of the challenges that we had or that we were talking through is like, what do you call it? How do you categorize this software? Because it's not really like a property management software anymore.

I mean, there's analysis tools in there that it tracks your progress toward your financial freedom goal.

So what I guess, how would you sum it up now that you've had, you know, I guess, time since we talked to think about it? And then what do you feel like are maybe some of the biggest, biggest challenges that people run into or problems that

Now, if you think, well, if you've listened to any of my episodes that I've been on here with Kirby, you've heard me say we need to build the business first.

An investor is somebody who puts their money in the stock market and just hopes the value goes up.

Because you're listening to Kirby's podcast, you come back every week to listen to Kirby's podcast.

And when you build that business, you need a system, a complete package that helps you to run that business.

Big companies, they have a back-end system that helps them run their business.
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