Aug 26, 2026 · 30 min · 13 segments
LifeBlood: We talked about overcoming shame, the distinction between guilt and shame, common sources of shame across demographics,the shame spiral and its link to addiction, the Four P's framework…
Frank SpinelliGuestGeorge GrombacherHost
I, I was raised in a very small place called Staten Island, and you probably are familiar with it because we have two things that everybody knows about, which is the Staten Island Ferry, which has been in a lot of movies.
Um, and I grew up there with my, uh, Italian, uh, immigrant parents and a very Catholic upbringing.
And, um, you know, um, like millions of people around the world, I had a traumatic childhood.
And, um, unfortunately, the way it, it got resolved when I told my parents was that they were shamed into keeping it quiet.
I worked with her for years, and she is really what got me through school, and I became a doctor.
And it was on a book tour for my first book where I caught up with some old friends from Boy Scouts, and I looked up my Scoutmaster.
And I found out that the year after he stepped down and disappeared, he adopted a boy, he wrote a book, and he was on The Today Show.
And he told me that since the 30 years that had lapsed, he had adopted 15 boys.
I wore a wiretap, if you can believe this boy from Staten [laughs] Island did that.
I, I was raised in a very small place called Staten Island, and you probably are familiar with it because we have two things that everybody knows about, which is the Staten Island Ferry, which has been in a lot of movies.
Um, and I grew up there with my, uh, Italian, uh, immigrant parents and a very Catholic upbringing.
And, um, you know, um, like millions of people around the world, I had a traumatic childhood.
And, um, unfortunately, the way it, it got resolved when I told my parents was that they were shamed into keeping it quiet.
I worked with her for years, and she is really what got me through school, and I became a doctor.
And it was on a book tour for my first book where I caught up with some old friends from Boy Scouts, and I looked up my Scoutmaster.
And I found out that the year after he stepped down and disappeared, he adopted a boy, he wrote a book, and he was on The Today Show.
And he told me that since the 30 years that had lapsed, he had adopted 15 boys.
I wore a wiretap, if you can believe this boy from Staten [laughs] Island did that.
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