Trevor KingGuest
David GriderHostSean FarrellHost
Maybe just stepping back for the listeners, maybe you could tell us a little bit about what a Perpdex is, how that kind of compares to other different types of exchange models, both in the traditional sense, whether it's CME or Coinbase, and then maybe even in the more what you'd call on-chain Web3 different competitors and what some of the advantages are of that model, why you think it's a great category for growth.

You can think of it very similar to the nice-year ice from an exchange business.

It's a very retail-friendly instrument, and we think this instrument will be used in all financial services platforms, whether that's Republic, Morgan Stanley, E-Trade, what have you.

that is curated towards retail, but it's also a unique instrument for hedge funds to hedge risk in a very simple way versus using a dated future and whatnot.

I think over the last 12 to 18 months, and I think if you go even further back the last three to four years, it's an asset class and an instrument that has continued to grow during bear markets.

I think you've seen the same with stablecoins, and I think this was really evident in 2023, 2024, 2025.

Stablecoins continue to have this steady growth, and you're seeing that in perps now.

You're seeing Going back to 2023 is really when they got rolling, 2024, 2025, 2026, you've seen this steady growth over time.

Yes, volumes are down pretty big, but relative to they were a year ago, two years ago, the growth is pretty incredible.

Just when you look at how small crypto is as an asset class and how much of volume in the Perp Dex has come from crypto assets.

Maybe just stepping back for the listeners, maybe you could tell us a little bit about what a Perpdex is, how that kind of compares to other different types of exchange models, both in the traditional sense, whether it's CME or Coinbase, and then maybe even in the more what you'd call on-chain Web3 different competitors and what some of the advantages are of that model, why you think it's a great category for growth.

You can think of it very similar to the nice-year ice from an exchange business.

It's a very retail-friendly instrument, and we think this instrument will be used in all financial services platforms, whether that's Republic, Morgan Stanley, E-Trade, what have you.

that is curated towards retail, but it's also a unique instrument for hedge funds to hedge risk in a very simple way versus using a dated future and whatnot.

I think over the last 12 to 18 months, and I think if you go even further back the last three to four years, it's an asset class and an instrument that has continued to grow during bear markets.

I think you've seen the same with stablecoins, and I think this was really evident in 2023, 2024, 2025.

Stablecoins continue to have this steady growth, and you're seeing that in perps now.

You're seeing Going back to 2023 is really when they got rolling, 2024, 2025, 2026, you've seen this steady growth over time.

Yes, volumes are down pretty big, but relative to they were a year ago, two years ago, the growth is pretty incredible.

Just when you look at how small crypto is as an asset class and how much of volume in the Perp Dex has come from crypto assets.
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