Leadership Conversations @ The Kitchen Table
Jun 28, 2026 · 1 hr 12 min · 16 segments
David Brannan, Program Director at the Center for Homeland Defense and Security at the Naval Postgraduate School, joins us for a conversation on staying in the fight—both professionally and…
David BrannanGuestBerlin MazaHostThat's not true, meaning you have done something to put yourself in position, whether it was your work ethic, whether it was your reputation, because there's no such thing as luck.
And so why I say that is although some of these things may not have been your plan, you built yourself up for those opportunities to be there.
And so can you talk about how you, David Brannon, I'm only imagining that you had the accolades, the reputation, the work ethic, the experience, to then these accidents, quote unquote, took place.

And so I understood the need for people thinking people especially, people who are self-critical.

Critical, and I don't mean critical in a, like you're a bad person, but critical about looking and examining the way you live your life.

So, and that became a part of my life When I was a cop, mission is a part of the life.

In the same but different way that firefighters are not about putting wet stuff on hot stuff, they're there about the mission.
That's not true, meaning you have done something to put yourself in position, whether it was your work ethic, whether it was your reputation, because there's no such thing as luck.
And so why I say that is although some of these things may not have been your plan, you built yourself up for those opportunities to be there.
And so can you talk about how you, David Brannon, I'm only imagining that you had the accolades, the reputation, the work ethic, the experience, to then these accidents, quote unquote, took place.

And so I understood the need for people thinking people especially, people who are self-critical.

Critical, and I don't mean critical in a, like you're a bad person, but critical about looking and examining the way you live your life.

So, and that became a part of my life When I was a cop, mission is a part of the life.

In the same but different way that firefighters are not about putting wet stuff on hot stuff, they're there about the mission.
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