Well, I watched it twice with you and once with Sister Kiki.
The only kind of knowledge I had is that, yes, they were, um, they were fighting for the freedom.
There's no way, uh, that I expected it to be this bad.
It was really emotional how they had to flee.
The, the, the s- the father kind of getting dragged out, out of his house in front of his child and wife, and then they're having to live with that trauma.
The boy, he's a teenager, 14, 15 year old, having to wet his bed from, from the traumatic experience he's had.
So yeah, it was, it was very, very emotional story.
I guess this is what most people there have to live with day to day, right?
Yeah, and it, and it's very well hidden.
But I was just interested in something quickly, Sami, because obviously you know that there was a bit of Hindutva propaganda affecting Bangladesh last year, right? Or the year before.
Yes.
Yeah.
When all that political stuff started, yeah.
Yeah.
So we both, and of course Kiki will understand it as well, being Pakistani, we all have been subjected to the Hindutva BJP propaganda.
Can you tell us a little bit about, you know, your take on this, this really extremist Hindu propaganda that seeks to demonize Muslims, Pakistan, Bangladeshi Muslims?
Yeah, in Bangladesh, what they tried to do, what happened there is they tried to show that there was problems with Muslims and Hindus, which wasn't the case.
It was just propaganda coming from the Hindutva side in India, and it's just to basically show that Muslims are, you know, bad people, they can't live alongside, um, other religion and other people, although these people in Bangladesh are ethnically Bengali.
Exactly.
And I mean, Kiki, uh, as a Muslim and as a Pakistani, how do you think you, um, are affected and, and your people are affected by the kind of Hindutva propaganda machine?
Oh, my goodness.
Well, I watched it twice with you and once with Sister Kiki.
The only kind of knowledge I had is that, yes, they were, um, they were fighting for the freedom.
There's no way, uh, that I expected it to be this bad.
It was really emotional how they had to flee.
The, the, the s- the father kind of getting dragged out, out of his house in front of his child and wife, and then they're having to live with that trauma.
The boy, he's a teenager, 14, 15 year old, having to wet his bed from, from the traumatic experience he's had.
So yeah, it was, it was very, very emotional story.
I guess this is what most people there have to live with day to day, right?
Yeah, and it, and it's very well hidden.
But I was just interested in something quickly, Sami, because obviously you know that there was a bit of Hindutva propaganda affecting Bangladesh last year, right? Or the year before.
Yes.
Yeah.
When all that political stuff started, yeah.
Yeah.
So we both, and of course Kiki will understand it as well, being Pakistani, we all have been subjected to the Hindutva BJP propaganda.
Can you tell us a little bit about, you know, your take on this, this really extremist Hindu propaganda that seeks to demonize Muslims, Pakistan, Bangladeshi Muslims?
Yeah, in Bangladesh, what they tried to do, what happened there is they tried to show that there was problems with Muslims and Hindus, which wasn't the case.
It was just propaganda coming from the Hindutva side in India, and it's just to basically show that Muslims are, you know, bad people, they can't live alongside, um, other religion and other people, although these people in Bangladesh are ethnically Bengali.
Exactly.
And I mean, Kiki, uh, as a Muslim and as a Pakistani, how do you think you, um, are affected and, and your people are affected by the kind of Hindutva propaganda machine?
Oh, my goodness.
The rest of this transcript — segmented and speaker-labeled, so you land on the exact moment something was said
Search every transcript — by keyword, by phrase, or by meaning, across every show Radar indexes
Trends — what is surging across podcasts, measured against its own baseline
Alerts — when a name you follow appears in a newly indexed episode
No account is needed to search Radar.