Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter
Jul 28, 2026 · 56 min · 22 segments
We wouldn't expect anything less from our chaotic duo when this episode turns into an unexpected solo episode after Becky’s internet disaster forces Kail to leave early. Before the handoff, Kail…
Becky HayterHost
Kail LowryHost
Um, so I wanna just tell you some of the things that I learned on my celiac follow-up yesterday.

I know I, I did text you some of it, but just for anyone listening, shout out to every single person who's been telling me to get tested for celiac for the past five to seven years, and I didn't listen to you.

Um, you all were correct, but my marker number was 166.5, and normally you need to do an endoscopy, not go gluten-free and do an ano-endoscopy before they, like, 100% confirm your diagnosis.

She said because my number is so far off the charts, they don't need me to go gluten-free.

They said I can go gluten-free now because it could take up to two years to stabilize my number, and that I need to be looking at body lotions, hair products, makeup products, toothpaste, body wash, soap, hand soap, laundry detergent, all the things that have gluten in them that we never knew.

That's gonna be my E in mine and Leah's teams tonight, that I did not know that gluten was outside of food.

So she said that hair products are, are probably the least of my concern unless I'm washing my hair and it's going down my face.

Um, and usually it's just, like, the nose and the mouth situation, if it can be ingested either by, on purpose or by mistake, like if I'm taking my makeup off and it drips into my mouth and things like that.

I had to, like-- We're taking the babies to the beach tomorrow, and I had to look at sunscreens because-

I, and I don't remember the wording exactly, so don't quote me on this, but I think it's, like, number one relatives or, like, there's, like, a number or numeric system for them.

So it's like parents, siblings, children, like, the people that are directly related to you, um, should all be tested.

They said it's a genetic autoimmune disorder or autoimmune disease, whatever, which I also didn't know.

You can't just, like, develop it just to develop it, like, just because of whatever.

Um, so I wanna just tell you some of the things that I learned on my celiac follow-up yesterday.

I know I, I did text you some of it, but just for anyone listening, shout out to every single person who's been telling me to get tested for celiac for the past five to seven years, and I didn't listen to you.

Um, you all were correct, but my marker number was 166.5, and normally you need to do an endoscopy, not go gluten-free and do an ano-endoscopy before they, like, 100% confirm your diagnosis.

She said because my number is so far off the charts, they don't need me to go gluten-free.

They said I can go gluten-free now because it could take up to two years to stabilize my number, and that I need to be looking at body lotions, hair products, makeup products, toothpaste, body wash, soap, hand soap, laundry detergent, all the things that have gluten in them that we never knew.

That's gonna be my E in mine and Leah's teams tonight, that I did not know that gluten was outside of food.

So she said that hair products are, are probably the least of my concern unless I'm washing my hair and it's going down my face.

Um, and usually it's just, like, the nose and the mouth situation, if it can be ingested either by, on purpose or by mistake, like if I'm taking my makeup off and it drips into my mouth and things like that.

I had to, like-- We're taking the babies to the beach tomorrow, and I had to look at sunscreens because-

I, and I don't remember the wording exactly, so don't quote me on this, but I think it's, like, number one relatives or, like, there's, like, a number or numeric system for them.

So it's like parents, siblings, children, like, the people that are directly related to you, um, should all be tested.

They said it's a genetic autoimmune disorder or autoimmune disease, whatever, which I also didn't know.

You can't just, like, develop it just to develop it, like, just because of whatever.
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