
But let's talk about your professional career, because, as you say, you have covered literally hundreds of games live.

So talk a little bit how you got to that, because a lot of people who listen to this podcast are sort of interested in a career in sports journalism.

So I did a degree in journalism, not sports journalism, because there wasn't any around then.

in my final year kind of specialized in newspaper journalism, which is, I always think it's quite funny in hindsight that basically as soon as I did that, they all started dying out.

And it's quite, it, it certainly was at the time had a good sort of reputation and, And they had these long standing sort of links with various media outlets where people would go on placements and stuff.

But quite a few guys off our course had been to PA and had basically been offered jobs for as soon as they finished placement.

So I didn't get that, but what I did do was, so I finished in the summer and then by sort of Christmas time, they had some jobs going basically, and they had, um, they used to do a trainee scheme, which was like a two year contract where you would go in and learn the ropes.

So I got one of those and started in the sort of January after my graduation, if you like.


And there's loads of people I've still worked with today who were there at the same time.

And I think it was just a good place to start because it really, it was a bit of a churning stuff out, you know, it was like, but it made you be able to write quickly and accurately and concisely, I guess, which is a skill in itself.

And writing for Teletext was like, Because word count is so low and, you know, you had to get everything into four tight paragraphs, which is a really good skill to have even now.

But let's talk about your professional career, because, as you say, you have covered literally hundreds of games live.

So talk a little bit how you got to that, because a lot of people who listen to this podcast are sort of interested in a career in sports journalism.

So I did a degree in journalism, not sports journalism, because there wasn't any around then.

in my final year kind of specialized in newspaper journalism, which is, I always think it's quite funny in hindsight that basically as soon as I did that, they all started dying out.

And it's quite, it, it certainly was at the time had a good sort of reputation and, And they had these long standing sort of links with various media outlets where people would go on placements and stuff.

But quite a few guys off our course had been to PA and had basically been offered jobs for as soon as they finished placement.

So I didn't get that, but what I did do was, so I finished in the summer and then by sort of Christmas time, they had some jobs going basically, and they had, um, they used to do a trainee scheme, which was like a two year contract where you would go in and learn the ropes.

So I got one of those and started in the sort of January after my graduation, if you like.


And there's loads of people I've still worked with today who were there at the same time.

And I think it was just a good place to start because it really, it was a bit of a churning stuff out, you know, it was like, but it made you be able to write quickly and accurately and concisely, I guess, which is a skill in itself.

And writing for Teletext was like, Because word count is so low and, you know, you had to get everything into four tight paragraphs, which is a really good skill to have even now.
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