Sep 1, 2026 · 32 min · 11 segments
Today, Steve is joined by former FBI agent Eric O’Neill. Eric is a cyber security expert and author, but he’s probably most well-known as the man who brought down Peter Hanssen, a Russian spy who…
Eric O'NeillGuest
Steve DurbinHost
Now, we often talk about cybersecurity as a technical challenge, a battle of algorithms, architectures, but if we actually peel back the layers, we find that pretty much every major breach shares a common denominator, and that's the human being.

Whether it's motivated by ego, ideology, or indeed good old financial gain, the human element remains our probably most volatile risk and our most vital asset.

Now, today on the podcast, I'm joined by someone who's lived at the real sharp end of that reality.

He's also the author of a couple of books, of which Gray Day may well be known to our listeners.

Because in that, he outlined his probably best known role in the capture of Robert Hansen, who was certainly one of the most, if not the most, notorious double agents in American history.

Steve, it's great to be here and to talk about everything related to espionage, spies, lies, and cybercrime.

Now, we often talk about cybersecurity as a technical challenge, a battle of algorithms, architectures, but if we actually peel back the layers, we find that pretty much every major breach shares a common denominator, and that's the human being.

Whether it's motivated by ego, ideology, or indeed good old financial gain, the human element remains our probably most volatile risk and our most vital asset.

Now, today on the podcast, I'm joined by someone who's lived at the real sharp end of that reality.

He's also the author of a couple of books, of which Gray Day may well be known to our listeners.

Because in that, he outlined his probably best known role in the capture of Robert Hansen, who was certainly one of the most, if not the most, notorious double agents in American history.

Steve, it's great to be here and to talk about everything related to espionage, spies, lies, and cybercrime.
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