Integrative Women's Health Podcast
Sep 29, 2026 · 1 hr 13 min · 15 segments
> *“You have to find a way to find safety within the world.” - Dr. Cathleen King* When someone has been living with chronic illness for years, talking to them about the nervous system can be really…
Jessica DrummondHostCathleen KingGuest
And her work through Primal Trust has helped over 20,000 people globally improve their healing.

But as a clinician working in chronic illness, here's what I want you to really think about as you listen to this conversation.

You can be listening to this in your headphones as you're taking a walk, but I want you to clear some space and just with your whole mind and body, just kind of listen to this conversation.

You might have to take this in a If you are a person living with chronic illness, with underlying genetic vulnerabilities like we all have, with environmental vulnerabilities, which I'm going to talk about in a second, listen to this with an open heart, even though it might be really hard to.

Because I think there are actually three legs of the stool of deep healing that And they might be different from what you might have learned from someone else.

King and I have a little bit of sparring disagreement conversation because my core belief, and I think she in many ways believes this as well, but we have a slightly different way of approaching it.

And I think it also depends on which... person, which client we're working with in terms of how to apply it.

So what am I talking about? What am I trying to say? The three legs of the stool of human health are our environment, of course.

And those of us who've been doing this work now, gosh, I've been doing this work for 27 years.

tens of thousands of patients and clients and educated thousands of practitioners.

And her work through Primal Trust has helped over 20,000 people globally improve their healing.

But as a clinician working in chronic illness, here's what I want you to really think about as you listen to this conversation.

You can be listening to this in your headphones as you're taking a walk, but I want you to clear some space and just with your whole mind and body, just kind of listen to this conversation.

You might have to take this in a If you are a person living with chronic illness, with underlying genetic vulnerabilities like we all have, with environmental vulnerabilities, which I'm going to talk about in a second, listen to this with an open heart, even though it might be really hard to.

Because I think there are actually three legs of the stool of deep healing that And they might be different from what you might have learned from someone else.

King and I have a little bit of sparring disagreement conversation because my core belief, and I think she in many ways believes this as well, but we have a slightly different way of approaching it.

And I think it also depends on which... person, which client we're working with in terms of how to apply it.

So what am I talking about? What am I trying to say? The three legs of the stool of human health are our environment, of course.

And those of us who've been doing this work now, gosh, I've been doing this work for 27 years.

tens of thousands of patients and clients and educated thousands of practitioners.
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