The Junior Designer Crisis
AI may remove the work juniors need.
Sep 7, 2026 · 46 min · 12 segments
**Episode web page**: https://bit.ly/4cqygzK **Episode summary**: In this episode of Insights Unlocked, host Jason Giles talks with Roger Wong, former Head of Design at BuildOps and an independent…
Roger WongGuest
Jason GilesHost
think you you um i think you have to earn that trust right by by having a product that is reliable that um that yeah that just earns it you know

And it's, it's interesting to think that the different kind of tools that maybe we have used in the past, um, there again, they're still valid, but there's new applications for these.

And, um, you know, we internally, we talk sometimes around, it's almost like, um, you know, in the old days, these deterministic UI interfaces, right? Like very kind of felt transactional.

Yes, you could get like some emotional connection to them and stuff, but the dynamic has really changed a little bit and like we're using language now that's more around like like relationship.

And we were thinking about like, well, how would I, how would I, Roger, how would I get your trust? Well, first, you know, I'd introduce myself.

And all of those attributes around building a relationship are starting to get introduced into our language that maybe we didn't quite use as explicitly in some of the interfaces that we've
designed in the past,

And I don't think that, um, it's, it's, yeah, it's great that it's showing up in the UI, you know, the, the interfaces and experiences that we're creating.

Um, but it also doesn't negate how we get there and, and use our human connections to build that software, those products.

Um, And yeah, I think that's definitely something that AI can't replace is that human-to-human relationship between colleagues and collaborators or even as a human being sitting here and understanding my environment.

Again, going back to my early example of people working in the field, AI is not going to know that if someone's on a roof and the sun is blurring down, looking at a phone is really hard, especially with the shiny screens that everyone has.

And did you know, I did do this testing at some point, dark mode is actually better in bright sunlight.

think you you um i think you have to earn that trust right by by having a product that is reliable that um that yeah that just earns it you know

And it's, it's interesting to think that the different kind of tools that maybe we have used in the past, um, there again, they're still valid, but there's new applications for these.

And, um, you know, we internally, we talk sometimes around, it's almost like, um, you know, in the old days, these deterministic UI interfaces, right? Like very kind of felt transactional.

Yes, you could get like some emotional connection to them and stuff, but the dynamic has really changed a little bit and like we're using language now that's more around like like relationship.

And we were thinking about like, well, how would I, how would I, Roger, how would I get your trust? Well, first, you know, I'd introduce myself.

And all of those attributes around building a relationship are starting to get introduced into our language that maybe we didn't quite use as explicitly in some of the interfaces that we've
designed in the past,

And I don't think that, um, it's, it's, yeah, it's great that it's showing up in the UI, you know, the, the interfaces and experiences that we're creating.

Um, but it also doesn't negate how we get there and, and use our human connections to build that software, those products.

Um, And yeah, I think that's definitely something that AI can't replace is that human-to-human relationship between colleagues and collaborators or even as a human being sitting here and understanding my environment.

Again, going back to my early example of people working in the field, AI is not going to know that if someone's on a roof and the sun is blurring down, looking at a phone is really hard, especially with the shiny screens that everyone has.

And did you know, I did do this testing at some point, dark mode is actually better in bright sunlight.
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