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What if the biggest challenges facing our communities—from healthcare and housing to education and public safety—could be addressed by thinking upstream?
In this episode of *IDEA Exchange*, host Miranda Bosse sits down with Dr. Paul Fleming, Associate Professor of Health Behavior and Health Equity at the University of Michigan School of Public Health and author of *Imagine Doing Better: Why Policies Backfire and How Prevention Thinking Can Change Everything*. Together, they explore how a prevention mindset can transform the way we approach public health, policy, and systems change.
Dr. Fleming reflects on his unexpected path into public health through the Peace Corps, the importance of community partnerships, and how listening, relationship-building, and co-learning continue to shape his work as a researcher and educator. He also shares the inspiration behind his new book, discussing why public health perspectives belong in conversations about criminal justice, education, housing, and other societal challenges—not just healthcare.
Throughout the conversation, Dr. Fleming offers a hopeful vision for the future, encouraging listeners to imagine healthier, more equitable communities by addressing root causes rather than reacting to crises. Whether you're a student, educator, policymaker, or simply interested in creating positive change, this episode offers practical insights on prevention thinking, systems change, and the power of collective action.
Order Dr. Fleming's book, *Imagine Doing Better*, here.
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