Robin D. G. Kelley

And then, like, my other professors were, like, Ruthie Gilmore, Ruth Wilson Gilmore, who's, like- Whoa ... like, the, the- Incredible ...

the abolitionist geographer, and Robin DG Kelley, and Laura Pulido.

I w- I didn't realize how lucky I was until, like, really after the fact.

So-

I remember reading Goffman and just some other, you know, a lot of white men, but also people who were doing everyday life studies without calling it everyday life studies.

I mean, one of my mentors and somebody I greatly admire is Robin D.G. Kelley, and, I mean, I would say he does everyday life studies.

You know, he does these radical histories, but he really focuses on every day.

Um, I can think of, you know, of course, Saidiya Hartman's, her most recent book, in many ways we can think of it as, you know, it's ca- it's been called a lot of different things, but I do think it's a way of thinking about everyday life studies.

Today, I'm very pleased to welcome Professor David McNally from University of Houston, who in 2012 won the Deutscher Prize for his book, Monsters of the Market.

Professor McNally is a Marxist historian and a very interesting scholar.

We are here to talk about his latest book, Slavery and Capitalism.

Professor McNally, welcome to Emancipations podcast.

You're absolutely right.

And if I had to identify a kind of inflection point, I would say it was the global financial crisis of 2007 to '9.

Here, historians in the US in particular, were confronted with this catastrophic meltdown of global financial markets, the collapse of seven Wall Street banks.

And there was an admission among historians that they lacked the tools for even making sense of what was obviously an enormously historical event.