Sep 2, 2026 · 48 min · 14 segments
Send us Fan Mail What happens when leaving your marriage feels terrifying — but staying is slowly destroying you? In this episode of *Heartbreak to…
Libby BrodieGuestSara DavisonHostWhy do you think we do that? Why do we do it? Why don't we go? Actually, you know what? It's pretty crap right

Also, what would that say about us if we partnered with a rubbish person or if we were being treated brilliantly? I think that's part of it.

But I was fascinated when I when I then told everyone we've split up, how many people of my friends and people actually didn't know that well and people I was very comfortable with.

came over and told me stuff about their relationships which they'd never had before and I thought I've known you for years or you'd be one of my best friends or you know we see each other every day or whatever it is and I had no idea that various not great things were happening to bunches of people so it's something we all do and that I thought was really interesting yeah
we're all doing survival isn't it it's like well I've got to make the most of it and also especially if you are in a toxic relationship like I was, we minimalise it so we don't really know how bad it is because if we admitted it to ourselves in that moment, we'd probably have to leave or make some big decisions we're not ready to make.
And I think, I don't know about for you, but for me, one of the overwhelming emotions that I didn't expect...
I was sort of catapulted out as my husband got somebody else, met somebody else, had an affair.
Why do you think we do that? Why do we do it? Why don't we go? Actually, you know what? It's pretty crap right

Also, what would that say about us if we partnered with a rubbish person or if we were being treated brilliantly? I think that's part of it.

But I was fascinated when I when I then told everyone we've split up, how many people of my friends and people actually didn't know that well and people I was very comfortable with.

came over and told me stuff about their relationships which they'd never had before and I thought I've known you for years or you'd be one of my best friends or you know we see each other every day or whatever it is and I had no idea that various not great things were happening to bunches of people so it's something we all do and that I thought was really interesting yeah
we're all doing survival isn't it it's like well I've got to make the most of it and also especially if you are in a toxic relationship like I was, we minimalise it so we don't really know how bad it is because if we admitted it to ourselves in that moment, we'd probably have to leave or make some big decisions we're not ready to make.
And I think, I don't know about for you, but for me, one of the overwhelming emotions that I didn't expect...
I was sort of catapulted out as my husband got somebody else, met somebody else, had an affair.
The rest of this transcript — segmented and speaker-labeled, so you land on the exact moment something was said
Search every transcript — by keyword, by phrase, or by meaning, across every show Radar indexes
Trends — what is surging across podcasts, measured against its own baseline
Alerts — when a name you follow appears in a newly indexed episode
No account is needed to search Radar.