Nov 1, 2026 · 37 min · 11 segments
In the final moments before Jesus sent his disciples out on mission he reminded them of what was most important. First, Jesus wants people to acknowledge him as God and King, and second, Jesus must be…
It's like, oh, what do we do with this? And so hopefully today we can come to a deeper understanding of what Jesus has to say here.
You may have noticed that we are coming up to a state election.
If you don't, here's the announcement, I guess.
On the 28th, we're all going to be choosing our new leaders for our state.
And maybe something you've noticed, if you're anything like me and you spend a little bit of time online, you'll notice that things are getting more and more extreme.
The views are getting more and more extreme.
The world is more polarised than ever and we're dividing on all sorts of lines.
And so I wonder if you've asked yourself the question of whether or not disagreeing about this issue or that issue is worth having an argument over, is worth even cutting off a friend or family member over.
Should I stop talking to my relative if they are pro-Palestine or pro-Israel? Should I cut off a friend who disagrees with me about climate change or someone who's pro-life or pro-choice? Can I still be friends with them? What should I do with these relationships? In theology, in the church, we talk about first, second and third order issues.
And it's helpful for us as Christians to understand how we think about things.
Those are first order issues.
Those are issues, I would dare say, that are worth dividing over.
There are second order issues that often separate churches in practice.
Views around baptism or women in ministry or how we think about how we do the Lord's Supper together.
Those are things that have separated churches in the past.
That's why we have different denominations.
Where we divide over second order issues, we can still recognize, hey, those people are our brothers and sisters in Christ because we agree about the first order issues.
Third order issues are the ones that we can have different views about and still be in close community together, still be in the same church, still be in the same missional community.
But maybe we disagree on our views about creationism or the end times, that sort of stuff.
Here's the thing.
It's like, oh, what do we do with this? And so hopefully today we can come to a deeper understanding of what Jesus has to say here.
You may have noticed that we are coming up to a state election.
If you don't, here's the announcement, I guess.
On the 28th, we're all going to be choosing our new leaders for our state.
And maybe something you've noticed, if you're anything like me and you spend a little bit of time online, you'll notice that things are getting more and more extreme.
The views are getting more and more extreme.
The world is more polarised than ever and we're dividing on all sorts of lines.
And so I wonder if you've asked yourself the question of whether or not disagreeing about this issue or that issue is worth having an argument over, is worth even cutting off a friend or family member over.
Should I stop talking to my relative if they are pro-Palestine or pro-Israel? Should I cut off a friend who disagrees with me about climate change or someone who's pro-life or pro-choice? Can I still be friends with them? What should I do with these relationships? In theology, in the church, we talk about first, second and third order issues.
And it's helpful for us as Christians to understand how we think about things.
Those are first order issues.
Those are issues, I would dare say, that are worth dividing over.
There are second order issues that often separate churches in practice.
Views around baptism or women in ministry or how we think about how we do the Lord's Supper together.
Those are things that have separated churches in the past.
That's why we have different denominations.
Where we divide over second order issues, we can still recognize, hey, those people are our brothers and sisters in Christ because we agree about the first order issues.
Third order issues are the ones that we can have different views about and still be in close community together, still be in the same church, still be in the same missional community.
But maybe we disagree on our views about creationism or the end times, that sort of stuff.
Here's the thing.
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