Episode 492 - Mike Fave - Why Keto and Carnivore Eventually Backfire

Yeah.

And I mean, obviously everyone's a little bit different.

I would imagine that, you know, someone that is low carb keto for even a year might not have any effects that are negative per se, right? Like it could take a while for them to sort of have like, you know, like sort of goes against them to some degree, right? Yeah.

It just depends on – it really depends on how it's set up.

So if you're just doing low-carb and it's like 100 grams of carbs a day, 150 grams of carbs a day, you're not really at the threshold.

Is that

even considered low-carb, 150 grams of carbs a day? That seems –

Depends on in the research for some of the research.

Yeah.

Now we're like the online spheres, depending on which forum you're on or which influencer you're listening to.

If you're not under 20 grams, you're not low carb or you're not whatever the thing is.

But if you look at the research, the targets are often a little bit higher, uh, And then there is, you know, Mark Sisson used to have this graph with 150 up at the peak for people who are still active and athletic, which a lot of people in these camps are active and athletic.

So it would still technically considered low carb.

For my standard, it would be as well looking at percent of total energy intake.

So, yes, at the 150, but even at around 100 grams of carbs a day.

For somebody who maybe they're not really active, maybe they're a little bit more sedentary, stuff like this, you can minimize a decent portion of some of the negative impacts that you would see if you go full-bore keto or full-bore carnivore.

A lot of people hang out in the low-carb area where they're not really full keto, less than 50 or 30 grams of carbs a day, or full-bore carnivore, where they're less than 30 or 50 grams of carbs a day and they eat zero plant foods.

It's when you start to dive into the more extreme ends of these things that people start – a large proportion of people, some people seem to do okay with it for longer than others, but a large proportion of people start to fall off.

Also, a lot of people – A lot of people, I'm not claiming this necessarily about the influencers because I don't know what they're doing, but clients that I have who come from these diets, they are not on these diets tightly and strictly.

They kind of cheat here and there.

They're really hungry for something.

They want some carbs.

You know, they go out to dinner with their family on Friday or they have an event or something on Saturday night and they don't follow through with the diet as it's laid out.

So there's a lot of that that goes on.

And I think that to some extent inhibits some of the negative ramifications.