How the UN Stopped World War III (with Shashi Tharoor and Nathan Gardels)
Oct 22, 2026 · 47 min · 9 segments
Hypocrisy, the old line goes, is the tribute vice pays to virtue. For eighty years, the powerful at least bothered to pay it, citing human rights, national security, and democracy as reasons for…
Hypocrisy, the old line goes, is the tribute vice pays to virtue. For eighty years, the powerful at least bothered to pay it, citing human rights, national security, and democracy as reasons for starting wars and undercutting liberties. Now the veneers have been stripped, and the next generation is not accepting business as usual. In this episode, author, Indian MP and former UN Under-Secretary-General Shashi Tharoor discusses how the order that prevented a third world war came apart, why a world more economically entangled than ever has less and less trust holding it together, and what the youth uprisings around the world have in common. His solution? A movement toward not just tolerance of differences, but acceptance of them. Subscribe to Futurology on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Futurologypod?sub\_confirmation=1 The Futurology Podcast – full episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwkiuf1eRbAAHP4p--2IFJbn0CIdaZMva Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/futurology/id1821718921 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/2I38HvHP6KlXrD5ysfygxk Why I Am a Hindu — Shashi Tharoor (Book, 2018) Surrender Is Not an Option: Defending America at the United Nations and Abroad — John Bolton (Book, 2007) **Where to find Shashi Tharoor:** Personal site: shashitharoor.in Instagram: @shashitharoor X: @ShashiTharoor **Show ideas and feedback? Email:** futurology@berggruen.org **Learn more about the Berggruen Institute** https://www.berggruen.org Follow Futurology Instagram: / futurologypod Twitter/X: / futurologypod Tiktok: / futurologypod Facebook: / berggrueninst LinkedIn: / berggrueninst Bluesky: / futurologypod **Credits** Executive Producers: Nicolas Berggruen, Nathan Gardels, Nils Gilman, Dawn Nakagawa, & Jason Hoch Producers: Grant Slater, Alex Gardels, & Nathalia Ramos Associate Producer: Elissa Mardiney Theme Music: Marcus Bagala Audio Engineer: Kyle Scott Wilso Futurology is a production of Studio B and Wavland for the Berggruen Institute in Los Angeles, California.
Hypocrisy, the old line goes, is the tribute vice pays to virtue. For eighty years, the powerful at least bothered to pay it, citing human rights, national security, and democracy as reasons for…
