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So let's talk about the first topic for the show today, which is this thing that I've been reading about and I shared with you and you hadn't heard of it.


And so there's a time horizon to when more content out there is AI-generated than human-generated.

And then there's a problem with that, which is that the LLMs are consuming content to train themselves on the language.

So what happens when the slop is training itself? And so, so like, I think that's interesting.

And then there's this thing that happened in the past week, which is the anthropic fingerprinting watermarking stuff.

And everybody's going to do this now where you can kind of identify AI writing without being able to remove those watermarks.

So I, you know, would love to get your, like your take on this dead internet theory.

But dude, like, wasn't that always, always the case? Like, don't trust what the Internet says to you, even if you read a web page.

But I think you end up on random sites and you're like, if you're on WebMD, you're like, okay, probably some doctor might have looked at this because that's their sort of promise to you as a website.

But then you're on like, you know, randomgymbro.com and it's telling you to inject yourself with this new thing.

And so you should, you know, but, but the fact now when you ask about something, you're not sure if it's reading WebMD or it's reading like Jim bros, like tips.

and you mentioned something about how you discovered perplexity was using one of these like sources, right?

for your own research? So, yeah, so there's a couple places where you could search and a buddy of mine was building this tool where you could actually sort of find that like my perplexity API had ran out of credits.

And when I went to turn it back on, I was like, oh, by the way, like, is it even worth paying? Should I, you know, sign up and, you know, put another 20 bucks in this thing? And it was like, actually, man, 50% or 60% of the stuff that Perplexity had found was coming from some garbage, like sort of site.

So let's talk about the first topic for the show today, which is this thing that I've been reading about and I shared with you and you hadn't heard of it.


And so there's a time horizon to when more content out there is AI-generated than human-generated.

And then there's a problem with that, which is that the LLMs are consuming content to train themselves on the language.

So what happens when the slop is training itself? And so, so like, I think that's interesting.

And then there's this thing that happened in the past week, which is the anthropic fingerprinting watermarking stuff.

And everybody's going to do this now where you can kind of identify AI writing without being able to remove those watermarks.

So I, you know, would love to get your, like your take on this dead internet theory.

But dude, like, wasn't that always, always the case? Like, don't trust what the Internet says to you, even if you read a web page.

But I think you end up on random sites and you're like, if you're on WebMD, you're like, okay, probably some doctor might have looked at this because that's their sort of promise to you as a website.

But then you're on like, you know, randomgymbro.com and it's telling you to inject yourself with this new thing.

And so you should, you know, but, but the fact now when you ask about something, you're not sure if it's reading WebMD or it's reading like Jim bros, like tips.

and you mentioned something about how you discovered perplexity was using one of these like sources, right?

for your own research? So, yeah, so there's a couple places where you could search and a buddy of mine was building this tool where you could actually sort of find that like my perplexity API had ran out of credits.

And when I went to turn it back on, I was like, oh, by the way, like, is it even worth paying? Should I, you know, sign up and, you know, put another 20 bucks in this thing? And it was like, actually, man, 50% or 60% of the stuff that Perplexity had found was coming from some garbage, like sort of site.
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