Sep 28, 2026 · 1 hr 48 min · 14 segments
What if the biggest opportunity in your business isn’t more leads, more ads, or more spending, but the value you’re already sitting on? In this conversation with legendary business strategist Jay…
Jay AbrahamGuestSardor UmrdinovHostBut most of the people think of just spending more marketing and actually doing a hit-and-run business, right?

Well, if you have word of mouth and that's the only way you do it, but it happens erratically, episodically, some weeks you get three, some weeks you get two, some weeks you get none, there are 125 ways that you could stimulate referrals on a regular basis without any expense, and nobody even knows it.

But in the course of an ad and a landing page, if you do it digitally or if you do it on radio, it's the same thing.

You have components that each separately can be made to produce many larger results.
But most of the people think of just spending more marketing and actually doing a hit-and-run business, right?

Well, if you have word of mouth and that's the only way you do it, but it happens erratically, episodically, some weeks you get three, some weeks you get two, some weeks you get none, there are 125 ways that you could stimulate referrals on a regular basis without any expense, and nobody even knows it.

But in the course of an ad and a landing page, if you do it digitally or if you do it on radio, it's the same thing.

You have components that each separately can be made to produce many larger results.
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