Ann Patchett's No-Kids Clarity
Let’s talk about choosing your path.
Apr 29, 2026 · 29 min · 17 segments
Listeners have things to say about ways to reduce your spending, group dynamics, and learning how other people live at a young age. Plus, some questions about alarm clocks and tinted moisturizers!…
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Well, Elise, before we take a break, we do have a note from a listener that relates to the trip that Ava recently took.

Um, so this listener wrote, "I've been listening to your podcast since 2020 and love it.

I just got caught up with the newer episodes and was so surprised to come across the one of Elise's daughter visiting Lima and Machu Picchu as I am Peruvian."

"It's not often I hear about my country in a podcast, so thanks for mentioning the story.


Your daughter might be too young to appreciate this trip now, but in time she will.

I visited these ruins w- twice as a kid and took it for granted, as I now realize how lucky I was to have one of the Seven Wonders of the World in my own country.

As tired as I was when hiking it, I remember admiring its beauty and feeling a magical energy there.

I wish for all parents to show their kids good values and important life lessons, and I think this form of traveling is one way to do so.

I've never learned more about the world and its people than in those rural/adventurous trips, and I'm forever grateful to my parents for these experiences.

If you have the means, expose your kids to the rest of the world and help them learn about how others live.

Traveling and meeting new people, seeing new places and cultures is so educational and rewarding.

And if you can't, at least show them via a documentary, book, have conversations.

I truly hope she enjoyed her time in Peru and that she cherishes this experience as she grows up."

Well, Elise, before we take a break, we do have a note from a listener that relates to the trip that Ava recently took.

Um, so this listener wrote, "I've been listening to your podcast since 2020 and love it.

I just got caught up with the newer episodes and was so surprised to come across the one of Elise's daughter visiting Lima and Machu Picchu as I am Peruvian."

"It's not often I hear about my country in a podcast, so thanks for mentioning the story.


Your daughter might be too young to appreciate this trip now, but in time she will.

I visited these ruins w- twice as a kid and took it for granted, as I now realize how lucky I was to have one of the Seven Wonders of the World in my own country.

As tired as I was when hiking it, I remember admiring its beauty and feeling a magical energy there.

I wish for all parents to show their kids good values and important life lessons, and I think this form of traveling is one way to do so.

I've never learned more about the world and its people than in those rural/adventurous trips, and I'm forever grateful to my parents for these experiences.

If you have the means, expose your kids to the rest of the world and help them learn about how others live.

Traveling and meeting new people, seeing new places and cultures is so educational and rewarding.

And if you can't, at least show them via a documentary, book, have conversations.

I truly hope she enjoyed her time in Peru and that she cherishes this experience as she grows up."
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