Sep 14, 2026 · 50 min · 11 segments
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Natalia AizaGuest
Kevin FossHost
Yeah, it's one of the things that stuck out to me as I was reading through your book is that there is this intentional o- observation about what that experience says about you, not just how it felt.
But it often seems like it goes, like, that, that language that one uses or that you're talking about goes to that, that shame language.
And there's, and there's the both intentional replacement of it and bringing in an al- a- an alternative, and it sounds like it also, through the process, helps kind of ma- make that, make that alternative thought a little bit more salient, a little, feel a little bit more real.
And, you know, with OCD, we, we often have stories that we tell about ourselves.
Like, I used to have a story that I told about myself that, like, I wasn't an eloquent speaker, and I shouldn't speak in public, and I can't communicate well.
They weren't, like, you know, horrid self-talk, but these were, these were stories that I, like, genuinely believed about myself.
... where I would get up in front of the class and, like, no words could come out of my mouth hole.
Yeah, it's one of the things that stuck out to me as I was reading through your book is that there is this intentional o- observation about what that experience says about you, not just how it felt.
But it often seems like it goes, like, that, that language that one uses or that you're talking about goes to that, that shame language.
And there's, and there's the both intentional replacement of it and bringing in an al- a- an alternative, and it sounds like it also, through the process, helps kind of ma- make that, make that alternative thought a little bit more salient, a little, feel a little bit more real.
And, you know, with OCD, we, we often have stories that we tell about ourselves.
Like, I used to have a story that I told about myself that, like, I wasn't an eloquent speaker, and I shouldn't speak in public, and I can't communicate well.
They weren't, like, you know, horrid self-talk, but these were, these were stories that I, like, genuinely believed about myself.
... where I would get up in front of the class and, like, no words could come out of my mouth hole.
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