Oct 12, 2026 · 49 min · 10 segments
What happens when the success you’ve worked so hard to achieve no longer gives you the fulfilment you expected? In this episode of Evolution Room, Miracle sits down with Patrick Harrison, a high…
Patrick HarrisonGuestMiracle AbazieHostI guess what you're, you're saying, and that's really, really a good one for everybody to take note of.
So one other question I would like to point out is the fact that most, most of the ambitious people we have in business career, they have one challenge.
Most of them have one challenge of burning out and the way the approach they go about.
they take when it comes to curbing those burnouts it's one that most of the time it involves in optimizing their schedules better time management so do you think trying to be more productive is a way they avoid the question of who they really are
great question miracle so reflecting back on my journey when i was working in the corporate world I used to be so focused on the latest productivity hack, on how I could squeeze more into my already packed days, into how I could achieve more of the limited time that I had.
And I became incredibly, what I would now define today as efficient, in that I was moving through tasks quickly and efficiently producing work to a decent standard.
If efficiency is moving through any one task in a good amount of time and producing good quality work, effectiveness is doing the right tasks that really move the needle.
And I think the biggest risk for incredibly driven people, and it was a trap that I fell into, is in becoming incredibly efficient, but not being very effective.
And there's a quote I believe from Tim Ferriss that I quite like around this, which is doing something unimportant well doesn't make it important.
It doesn't matter how efficient we are, how productive we are, if the things we are doing aren't moving the needle.
So I think for driven, ambitious people, it's thinking, okay, instead of first focusing on how I can become more efficient, how I can become more productive, how I can use my time better, first think about, okay, what are my priorities? What are the most important things for me to focus on? Then once we become effective, once we start moving the needle by focusing on the most important things, then we can think, okay, well, how can I become more efficient in those? So that's the perspective that I like to have around productivity that is first become effective, then become efficient.
And to your point around burnout miracle, and I appreciate it's a very sadly common challenge for people.
And what I see is that the biggest risk for driven high performers is not that we don't do enough work is that we do too much.
And it's not so much the discipline to work that is the challenge, as you said there, Miracle, for driven high performers, it's rather
the discipline to rest.
And there's a formula that I love around this, which is stress plus rest equals growth.
If we are constantly putting ourselves under stress, good or bad stress, and I'll come back to that in a moment.
If we are constantly putting ourselves under stress, if we are constantly working and not resting, we might grow a little bit, but over time we'll plateau.
So thinking about that formula, we want to stress ourselves, yes, but ensure that we're getting sufficient rest and recovery.
It is when we compliment that stress, the work, with the rest, that is when we grow.
And that is what I saw when I noticed that gap between where I was and where I wanted to be, when I saw my potential in that moment of clarity in January of 2020.
I guess what you're, you're saying, and that's really, really a good one for everybody to take note of.
So one other question I would like to point out is the fact that most, most of the ambitious people we have in business career, they have one challenge.
Most of them have one challenge of burning out and the way the approach they go about.
they take when it comes to curbing those burnouts it's one that most of the time it involves in optimizing their schedules better time management so do you think trying to be more productive is a way they avoid the question of who they really are
great question miracle so reflecting back on my journey when i was working in the corporate world I used to be so focused on the latest productivity hack, on how I could squeeze more into my already packed days, into how I could achieve more of the limited time that I had.
And I became incredibly, what I would now define today as efficient, in that I was moving through tasks quickly and efficiently producing work to a decent standard.
If efficiency is moving through any one task in a good amount of time and producing good quality work, effectiveness is doing the right tasks that really move the needle.
And I think the biggest risk for incredibly driven people, and it was a trap that I fell into, is in becoming incredibly efficient, but not being very effective.
And there's a quote I believe from Tim Ferriss that I quite like around this, which is doing something unimportant well doesn't make it important.
It doesn't matter how efficient we are, how productive we are, if the things we are doing aren't moving the needle.
So I think for driven, ambitious people, it's thinking, okay, instead of first focusing on how I can become more efficient, how I can become more productive, how I can use my time better, first think about, okay, what are my priorities? What are the most important things for me to focus on? Then once we become effective, once we start moving the needle by focusing on the most important things, then we can think, okay, well, how can I become more efficient in those? So that's the perspective that I like to have around productivity that is first become effective, then become efficient.
And to your point around burnout miracle, and I appreciate it's a very sadly common challenge for people.
And what I see is that the biggest risk for driven high performers is not that we don't do enough work is that we do too much.
And it's not so much the discipline to work that is the challenge, as you said there, Miracle, for driven high performers, it's rather
the discipline to rest.
And there's a formula that I love around this, which is stress plus rest equals growth.
If we are constantly putting ourselves under stress, good or bad stress, and I'll come back to that in a moment.
If we are constantly putting ourselves under stress, if we are constantly working and not resting, we might grow a little bit, but over time we'll plateau.
So thinking about that formula, we want to stress ourselves, yes, but ensure that we're getting sufficient rest and recovery.
It is when we compliment that stress, the work, with the rest, that is when we grow.
And that is what I saw when I noticed that gap between where I was and where I wanted to be, when I saw my potential in that moment of clarity in January of 2020.
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