When Is It Time to Expand Your Group Practice? An Honest Conversation with Frances Hammel-Kampus

If you have ever wondered whether you are ready to grow, this conversation is for you. Frances of Moose Jaw Psychology shares how a solo practice she opened the month before the pandemic grew, almost accidentally, into a team of around sixteen clinicians, and the grounded, numbers-based thinking she used to decide when to take more space before she was ever fully ready. **What You’ll Hear:** - Why you are rarely ready to expand when you expand, and why taking the space before you fill it can still be the right call - How to use your actual numbers to know when you have genuinely outgrown your space - The Tetris of room scheduling, and why more clinicians does not always mean more rooms - Why a plateau is not failure, and what that quieter season actually frees you to build - The why question that will anchor you on the hard and lonely days of ownership - Permission to change your mind, downsize, or stop growing without it meaning you did something wrong **Resources Mentioned on this Episode** - Moose Jaw Psychology: www.moosejawpsychology.ca - GPO Network, the free Facebook group for Canadian group practice owners - Group Practice Connection membership: Join here Featured Guest: Frances Kampus is a Registered Psychologist with the Saskatchewan College of Psychologists and a member of the Psychology Association of Saskatchewan. She holds an Authorized Practice Endorsement (APE), allowing her to diagnose psychological disorders, and has extensive experience providing evidence-based assessment and therapy services across both public and private sectors. Frances is the founder and CEO of Moose Jaw Psychology Services, a rapidly growing private practice established in 2020 with a mission to help individuals and families create more balance, resilience, and fulfillment in their lives. The practice offers therapy and comprehensive psychological assessments for children, adolescents, and adults in a supportive and collaborative environment. Beyond the therapy room, she is passionate about leadership, mentorship, and the business side of private practice — navigating the many roles of clinician, CEO, supervisor, entrepreneur, and working mother. Frances is also committed to strengthening the future of mental health care through clinical supervision and training opportunities for graduate students, interns, and provisionally registered psychologists. Her work is grounded in the belief that sustainable mental health care starts not only with helping clients thrive, but also with supporting and developing the professionals who serve them. **Connect with Frances:** Website: https://www.moosejawpsychology.ca/ Instagram: @moosejawpsychology / https://www.instagram.com/moosejawpsychology/ Facebook: Moose Jaw Psychology Services / https://www.facebook.com/moosejawpsychologyservices **Meet the Host: Lisa Catallo** Lisa is a Canadian psychotherapist, group practice owner, and business coach with over eight years of experience leading a thriving, values-driven practice. She works with therapists who are ready to step into their role as confident, ethical, and intentional leaders—without burning out or getting buried in the day-to-day. Lisa’s coaching focuses on building sustainable group practices through efficient systems, effective leadership, and a deep respect for time and energy. Her approach is calm and encouraging, offering grounded guidance that helps therapists move from overwhelm to clarity—so they can lead with confidence and purpose. Whether she’s supporting someone just starting to grow a team or helping a seasoned leader reclaim their role as CEO, Lisa brings a blend of insight, structure, and heart to everything she does. When she’s not coaching or connecting with therapists, you’ll find her hanging out with her children and grandchildren, reading, walking by the water, or dreaming up new ways to make business feel a little lighter. **Connect with the Host:** Website: www.grouppracticenetwork.ca Instagram: instagram.com/grouppracticenetwork Facebook: facebook.com/grouppracticenetwork LinkedIn:www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-catallo **Loved this episode? 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