She Collects Spaces: Expanding a Group Practice with Vision, Grit, and a Guardian Mindset with Rachel Frankford

What does it look like to expand your group practice three times without a blueprint, before you feel financially ready, and driven entirely by vision? In this conversation, Lisa sits down with Rachel Frankford, owner of New Pathways Therapy in Toronto, to talk about organic growth, the guardianship model of leadership, and what it really takes to keep saying yes when everything in you says it is too soon. **What You’ll Hear:** - How Rachael went from hospital social worker to accidental group practice owner, and why she started a practice simply because the group she wanted to be in did not exist - What she means by guardianship as a leadership model and how it changed the way she hires, grows, and protects her practice culture - The story behind The Third Space, her newest location, and the concept that inspired the name - Why each of her three expansions happened before she felt financially ready and what she learned from doing it anyway - How getting her numbers straight changed everything, and why she says investing in your business skills matters more than almost anything else when you are scaling **Resources Mentioned on this Episode** \- New Pathways Therapy website: newpathwaystherapy.com \- New Pathways Therapy on Instagram: @newpathwaystherapy \- The Forum: women in business mentorship program sponsored by Scotiabank — forumforwomenentrepreneurs.ca \- Ella Ascend: competitive scaling program for women entrepreneurs through the Forum \- Taunya Richardson / Cashflow Canvas: numbers and finance coaching for group practice owners \- The Numbers Room: Lisa's program for understanding your practice finances \- Group Practice Connection: Lisa's membership for established group practice owners \- The Art of Gathering by Priya Parker **Featured Guest: Rachel Frankford** Rachel Frankford is a holistic psychotherapist, clinical social worker, and founder of New Pathways Therapy Centre in Toronto. With over two decades of experience in mental health, she specialises in trauma therapy and works from an integrative lens that weaves together neuroscience, somatic therapy, nervous system regulation, and mindfulness. Rachel is also the creator of The Third Space, a community gathering space within New Pathways dedicated to mindfulness groups, workshops, and collective healing. Her work is rooted in a deep belief that community, embodiment, and authentic connection are essential to how we heal. Find her at newpathwaystherapy.com and on Instagram at @newpathwaystherapy. Connect with Rachel: Website: https://www.newpathwaystherapy.com/ Instagram: @newpathwaystherapy **Meet the Host: Lisa Catallo** Lisa is a Canadian psychotherapist, group practice owner, and business coach with over eight years of experience leading a thriving, values-driven practice. She works with therapists who are ready to step into their role as confident, ethical, and intentional leaders—without burning out or getting buried in the day-to-day. Lisa’s coaching focuses on building sustainable group practices through efficient systems, effective leadership, and a deep respect for time and energy. Her approach is calm and encouraging, offering grounded guidance that helps therapists move from overwhelm to clarity—so they can lead with confidence and purpose. Whether she’s supporting someone just starting to grow a team or helping a seasoned leader reclaim their role as CEO, Lisa brings a blend of insight, structure, and heart to everything she does. When she’s not coaching or connecting with therapists, you’ll find her hanging out with her children and grandchildren, reading, walking by the water, or dreaming up new ways to make business feel a little lighter. **Connect with the Host:** Website: www.grouppracticenetwork.ca Instagram: instagram.com/grouppracticenetwork Facebook: facebook.com/grouppracticenetwork LinkedIn:www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-catallo **Loved this episode? Let’s take it a step further.** Grab the free **Time + Energy Audit for Group Practice Owners** to get super clear on where your time is going—and what it’s actually worth. 👉 Download it here And if you're ready for consistent support, connection, and access to done-for-you tools? Come join us inside **Group Practice Connection**—the membership designed to help Canadian group practice owners lead with clarity and confidence. ✨ You don’t have to do this alone. Check it out here **Empowered to Lead** is proud to be on the *High Vibe Podcast Network Check* out (Host Name) Gift in the Vault https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts **Share the Love** ✨ If this episode lit something up in you… tag us on Instagram @HighVibeLeaders and @grouppracticenetwork and let us know your biggest takeaway! 🦋 Don’t forget to rate & review — it helps us reach more conscious rebels like you. **Listen & Subscribe** 🎧 Apple Podcasts 🎧 Spotify 🎧 Amazon Music 🎧 High Vibe Podcast Network