Call the Damn Customer: The Underrated Growth Hack in an AI World

In this episode, the hosts argue that while AI and automation dominate marketing conversations, the real competitive edge comes from genuine human interaction. They discuss strategies like calling customers, hosting live events and webinars, using targeted live chats and surveys, and creating memorable physical experiences to boost retention, lifetime value and word-of-mouth. The episode also covers budgeting for experimentation (an "R&D" or "fuck around" budget), the risks of letting AI interpret raw data without context, and practical examples of how small, personal touches can deliver outsized returns.