#9 Martina Luisetti - From Jet-Setting Celebrity Makeup Artist to Awesome ABA Enthusiast

That's incredible.

And I think I think, again, it's a it's a similar way that a lot of people get into this and they come at it from different ways and different angles, different animals.

But it's always that kind of wanting to understand, wanting to communicate, I think, as well in some kind of way.

And it's also, it's a really, um, it often comes up, but me, me included, I'll include myself in this, that our first sort of forays into training, um, as maybe a member of the public getting, um, employing a local trainer or someone that comes recommended quite often.

I'm not sure if it's still the same, but back in my day, it was someone that was a Like you say, old school.

School of hard knocks training, shall we call it, that kind of thing.

And that was, you know, you do with... not what knowledge you've got at the time you know i'm not being too judgmental but i i often hear people and maybe this is confirmation bias because these are the kind of people that i talk to but i often hear people talking about having that kind of internal dialogue with themselves about it doesn't feel right isn't the sort of thing i didn't really know you know so it's interesting to hear that something i remember And something you talked to about a little bit there about is your use of space and choice.

when it comes to that's something that was a real highlight of your homework videos all those years back when I was watching those videos, like your mechanics and your kind of understanding of where you are in the space was always really inspiring to watch.

And I wonder, I mean, I'm putting you on the spot here with a question, but I wonder where did that come from? How did you build that?

Bless you.

What a great question.

I don't know.

Well, great answer.

I tell you,

you know, I guess the answer is always, it depends, you know.

But I think I understand what you mean.

For me, it's like, I always reference The Matrix, and I think I heard you referencing The Matrix as well.

I remember thinking, was it you? I remember thinking, oh, wow, we think in that same, you know, the final scene where Neo finally sees the code.

He sees the code and the way...

And basically he's about to get hit by the bullets, but he leans backwards and everything slows down and it flickers one away from him so it doesn't hit him.

And I just started thinking of...

the environment in that way it must have been i'll tell you while i'm speaking i i'm remembering it must have been from what from uh susan friedman's lla i don't know if you've ever taken that course living and learning with animals i

haven't but so many people speak so highly i mean

It's just, you know, my mind blown in the way of connecting the dots.

And I think she spoke a lot about the space.