Aug 20, 2026 · 1 hr 21 min · 15 segments
Beatrice speaks with Rachel Herzing and Justin Piché about how the fight to abolish prisons touches other movements, what abolitionist movement wins tell us about taking the long view in organizing…
Beatrice Adler-BoltonHost
Rachel HerzingGuest
Justin PichéGuest
... um, that they could be places of care when we know what lived experience tells us, what the evidence shows us, what the body bags show us, is that prison is a disabling, life-maiming, and life-taking institution.
It's a fight for living, and when we imagine the breadth of that, we have a better horizon line than when we focus merely on one aspect.
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