Jul 16, 2026 · 41 min · 12 segments
It has been a while since we talked with Ian Thorton-Trump, CISO and prognosticator at Inversion6, so we were happy when he dropped us a note and reminded us of that lack…
Ian Thornton-TrumpGuest
Lou CoveyHost
I think any casual observer or even a deeper observer would see that America's dependability, reliability and investment has sustained some blows.
But I'm going to go a little bit bigger, and I'm going to say you just celebrated your 250-year anniversary.
When you look at some of the European history, the first 250 years have been pretty rough, you know? You're experimenting with a lot of limits of your systems, your institutions, even demographics and things like that.
And yes, are some people a little bit hesitant now to trust American tech overseas in the European Union? Are some folks hesitant to look at American businesses Yes, but it's not going to last forever.
And I think one of the key turning points will be, and we'll see how the midterms go, but that might be a little bit sticky to get through them.
But when you think about like the arc of history, when you think about some of the large conflicts that have happened across Europe, they're measured in decades, mate, right? Or, you know, five years.
47 hasn't been a good number, but I am gonna say that I feel like there will be a giant recovery dependent on a couple of things.
So the first is America's might in its economic might is found in technology.
It's the top revenue generating function that's out there, right? Extractive resources are, I think, I believe are second and agriculture, food products are third.
Every other aspect of the American economy is heavily regulated, except tech.
And so I feel like tech has grown and has become an entity that will drag the rest of America along with it.
I think what tech understands about the fact of the matter is that it is the economic engine of the United States.
So given those type of things, an economic engine will push things out of the way and take over.
which the energy companies are responding to, which is creating economic opportunity.
I feel the key to America is really about economic growth and prosperity.
Because here's where I'm thinking, sure, maybe inflation is stuck at 3.5%.
The only way that can happen is if your economy is robust and employers start valuing employees a little bit better and start adding to their pocketbooks.
I think any casual observer or even a deeper observer would see that America's dependability, reliability and investment has sustained some blows.
But I'm going to go a little bit bigger, and I'm going to say you just celebrated your 250-year anniversary.
When you look at some of the European history, the first 250 years have been pretty rough, you know? You're experimenting with a lot of limits of your systems, your institutions, even demographics and things like that.
And yes, are some people a little bit hesitant now to trust American tech overseas in the European Union? Are some folks hesitant to look at American businesses Yes, but it's not going to last forever.
And I think one of the key turning points will be, and we'll see how the midterms go, but that might be a little bit sticky to get through them.
But when you think about like the arc of history, when you think about some of the large conflicts that have happened across Europe, they're measured in decades, mate, right? Or, you know, five years.
47 hasn't been a good number, but I am gonna say that I feel like there will be a giant recovery dependent on a couple of things.
So the first is America's might in its economic might is found in technology.
It's the top revenue generating function that's out there, right? Extractive resources are, I think, I believe are second and agriculture, food products are third.
Every other aspect of the American economy is heavily regulated, except tech.
And so I feel like tech has grown and has become an entity that will drag the rest of America along with it.
I think what tech understands about the fact of the matter is that it is the economic engine of the United States.
So given those type of things, an economic engine will push things out of the way and take over.
which the energy companies are responding to, which is creating economic opportunity.
I feel the key to America is really about economic growth and prosperity.
Because here's where I'm thinking, sure, maybe inflation is stuck at 3.5%.
The only way that can happen is if your economy is robust and employers start valuing employees a little bit better and start adding to their pocketbooks.
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