Aug 12, 2026 · 49 min · 17 segments
This episode is for you if: 1 - You are struggling to finish creative projects. 2 - You don’t know where to find ideas. 3 - You are sick of waiting for opportunities to come your way. 4 - You need…
Sophie BlackallGuestAndy J. PizzaHostUh, one of my favorite little bits was this moment that feels like, oh, this is written by an illustrator, because it really creates a space for the illustrator.
... you know? Uh, but I really like this part at the end where the text just says that class 201 and class 202, which are the other classes, are silent.
And at first you're like, "Okay, I don't know what that means," and then you go look in, and you're like, "Oh, the braiding has been contagious, and now the other classes are getting into it."
And so I love that moment where, you know, the pictures and the words have to come together, and it feels like, oh, this is someone who thinks, thinks like an illustrator.
And, and it was so great that, that Phoebe just got it immediately, and has done things with this book.
I, I think ex- I thought exactly the same thing, and I always do with her work.
Uh, one of my favorite little bits was this moment that feels like, oh, this is written by an illustrator, because it really creates a space for the illustrator.
... you know? Uh, but I really like this part at the end where the text just says that class 201 and class 202, which are the other classes, are silent.
And at first you're like, "Okay, I don't know what that means," and then you go look in, and you're like, "Oh, the braiding has been contagious, and now the other classes are getting into it."
And so I love that moment where, you know, the pictures and the words have to come together, and it feels like, oh, this is someone who thinks, thinks like an illustrator.
And, and it was so great that, that Phoebe just got it immediately, and has done things with this book.
I, I think ex- I thought exactly the same thing, and I always do with her work.
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