Counter Extremism Perspectives
Oct 14, 2026 · 45 min · 10 segments
Dr Hans-Jakob Schindler and Alexander Ritzmann are joined by Juncal Fernández Garayzábal, author of a recent CEP report on the Ceuta border crisis and its implications for Europe’s security. They…
Hans-Jakob SchindlerHost
Alexander RitzmannHostSo the European Parliament calls this a hybrid attack, right? By whom? Yes.
It would be slightly ironic because we do have, you know, attempted remodelings of major German airports by Russia, right? I'm, of course, referring to the incident at Leipzig Airport.
If that had functioned, I would have caused major damage to Leipzig Airport and significant loss of human life because multiple bomb drones were in the air at that night.
In theater, when you call it a hybrid attack, is it by non-state actors, criminals? Are they ledging the Moroccan government potentially behind this? Who is then the originator of that hybrid attack?
I mean, it's still unclear, and in the conversations at the European level that followed the Delta crisis very recently, a couple of weeks ago, there's no attribution or actual responsibility pointed at anybody, but Morocco was called out to fulfill their side of the deal when it comes to the Spanish-European agreement and the migration and asylum pact.
So, you know, I mean, I do understand why the interpretation of it being a hybrid attack emerged.
Spanish authorities, you know, have said that during 10 hours Moroccan forces weren't even preventing crossings.
And there's also been allegations of active facilitation by Moroccan agents.
So the European Parliament calls this a hybrid attack, right? By whom? Yes.
It would be slightly ironic because we do have, you know, attempted remodelings of major German airports by Russia, right? I'm, of course, referring to the incident at Leipzig Airport.
If that had functioned, I would have caused major damage to Leipzig Airport and significant loss of human life because multiple bomb drones were in the air at that night.
In theater, when you call it a hybrid attack, is it by non-state actors, criminals? Are they ledging the Moroccan government potentially behind this? Who is then the originator of that hybrid attack?
I mean, it's still unclear, and in the conversations at the European level that followed the Delta crisis very recently, a couple of weeks ago, there's no attribution or actual responsibility pointed at anybody, but Morocco was called out to fulfill their side of the deal when it comes to the Spanish-European agreement and the migration and asylum pact.
So, you know, I mean, I do understand why the interpretation of it being a hybrid attack emerged.
Spanish authorities, you know, have said that during 10 hours Moroccan forces weren't even preventing crossings.
And there's also been allegations of active facilitation by Moroccan agents.
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