Aug 31, 2026 · 1 hr 7 min · 13 segments
In this episode, author and former FBI agent/journalist Christopher Whitcomb explains why he wrote his book “Broken Plea,” which examines primary source case documents and evidence photos/videos from…
Christopher WhitcombGuest
Caroline BaudinoHost
I think the naysayers, when we get a lot of shit, when people are saying, you know, it's him, he's guilty and you guys don't know what you're talking about.

And I am blown away that they don't see the inconsistencies in these stories.

He's going to sneak into a house and in four minutes butcher four people violently and then have not one single piece of DNA, no blood traces anywhere.

And reading your book actually pissed me off even more because when you see the ridiculousness of that, they suggested that he was running around naked or, you know, some of these things that were said that you were like, that's just not plausible for those at home who really don't understand the intricacies of this case.

Chris, can you give us a little bit of the background of what actually happened that night?

And how involved are we at looking at this collectively? So I think one thing that we haven't talked about a lot, let me preface by saying this, that I wrote this book and the book came out since the beginning of the summer.

Yesterday, Judge Hipler granted Brian Koberger a hearing a hearing in which he is allowed, through his defense team, to change his plea or to argue that he should be allowed to change his plea from guilty, not guilty, to guilty, now back to not guilty, in which case he would go to trial.

And I want to say that because of my... lifelong participation in the criminal justice system.

I'm not going to talk about anything outside the parameters of the book because I don't want to otherwise engage.

I don't want to engage this investigation beyond what I've already written.

However, what's in the book, what's available online, what people are now talking about on everything from Reddit to TMZ, Legacy Media, That we can talk about.

So coming back, I'll say this, that I wrote broken plea to be a forensic examination of primary source information, meaning what's in the police file that prosecutor Bill Thompson and his team would have used to argue that Koberger was guilty.

And what would Ann Taylor and her defense team argue on behalf of Brian Koberger that he was not guilty? It was ready to go to trial.

I think the naysayers, when we get a lot of shit, when people are saying, you know, it's him, he's guilty and you guys don't know what you're talking about.

And I am blown away that they don't see the inconsistencies in these stories.

He's going to sneak into a house and in four minutes butcher four people violently and then have not one single piece of DNA, no blood traces anywhere.

And reading your book actually pissed me off even more because when you see the ridiculousness of that, they suggested that he was running around naked or, you know, some of these things that were said that you were like, that's just not plausible for those at home who really don't understand the intricacies of this case.

Chris, can you give us a little bit of the background of what actually happened that night?

And how involved are we at looking at this collectively? So I think one thing that we haven't talked about a lot, let me preface by saying this, that I wrote this book and the book came out since the beginning of the summer.

Yesterday, Judge Hipler granted Brian Koberger a hearing a hearing in which he is allowed, through his defense team, to change his plea or to argue that he should be allowed to change his plea from guilty, not guilty, to guilty, now back to not guilty, in which case he would go to trial.

And I want to say that because of my... lifelong participation in the criminal justice system.

I'm not going to talk about anything outside the parameters of the book because I don't want to otherwise engage.

I don't want to engage this investigation beyond what I've already written.

However, what's in the book, what's available online, what people are now talking about on everything from Reddit to TMZ, Legacy Media, That we can talk about.

So coming back, I'll say this, that I wrote broken plea to be a forensic examination of primary source information, meaning what's in the police file that prosecutor Bill Thompson and his team would have used to argue that Koberger was guilty.

And what would Ann Taylor and her defense team argue on behalf of Brian Koberger that he was not guilty? It was ready to go to trial.
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