#98 – Carlo Borromeo. Understanding Restomods.

But I mean, how did it work at that time? Because let's speak about the BMW M1, which has-

[laughs]

... a, a bit of Giugiaro in it, I would say.

Absolutely.

And that was the first real...

I mean, I think he was also involved in the BMW 3200 at his time at Bertone, but I think the, the real first collaboration, uh, with, uh, Giorgetto Giugiaro and BMW was the M1, if I'm not mistaken.

As far as I know, you're correct, uh, then.

Yeah.

And, um, but what do you think makes the M1 so special from a designer's point of view?

I think we're in a moment in time where we really are looking into the whole wedge design period-

Yes

... uh, with a keener interest than in the past.

So to me, the, the BMW M1, it's a perfect example of, um, well-done wedge design.

Yeah.

It's boxy, but it's sexy, and, uh, it can stand the test of time.

It's not a gimmick.

It's actually a very well-proportioned car.

Carlo, I would love to have a shirt like, "BMW M1, boxy but sexy." [laughs]

[laughs] It's true.

And, uh-

It's really, it's fantastic.

I love that one.

Very cool.

So to me, to me, that's, uh, that's what makes it so special, is that it's, uh, quite, um, uh, how can I say? Quite the perfect example of the design ethos style of a specific era, which was the late '70s, early '80s, uh, but in a way that became timeless compared-

Mm-hmm