Brian Kilpatrick, President & CEO, Trinity Park Conservancy Building Dallas’ Next Great Gathering Place

Yeah, and maybe that's the fundamental difference, too, because when I think of SeaWorld, I sort of equate it with Six Flags or Disney or something like that.

It's a one-off or, you know, once a year.

But, I mean, this is a sense of place.

My sense is you're trying to create something more than that, something that attracts people year-round and frequently.

yeah absolutely we you know when i first i've been in dallas about two years now when i first came to dallas it was approaching summertime and i spent some time out and about and i noticed parks there was no one there in the summertime and yes it's hot in dallas but dallas isn't the only hot city uh in the country what what i learned is when you do these public green space parks you have to think about it year round and so you got to think of Things like shade.

You got to think of indoor respite places people can go.

You got to think of water play.

So you got to think of this variety of things that piques interest, not only throughout the day, but but throughout the year.

You know, if you were a strict businessman for a profit businessman, I'd be talking to you about cash flow and will this cash flow.

But it's the same kind of challenge here.

You can't perpetually fundraise to cover an infinite budget.

There are going to be opportunities here, aren't there?

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

And you know, there's, there's models like this all across the country.

In fact, just one example, there's a network based out of New York called the Highline Network.

It's a network of these public infrastructure reuse parks across the country.

These are the old elevated railways.

Well, the Highline is that park and the network was how to take that lesson learned and how do we go apply that if you will, to spaces across the country.

And the great thing about that network is, I mean, you're talking 30 plus or minus of these parks across the country.

It's an open book.

There's collaboration.

There's dialogue.

And so where you're going with your question is all of these parks have their own model of how to create revenue streams that help support the O&M of these tier one.

They're like attractions.