Breakdown to Breakthrough
Steve recounts the night everything changed forever
Centering: The Asian American Christian Podcast
Jul 21, 2026 · 48 min · 13 segments
Justice Work for the Long Haul: A Conversation with Steven Park Daniel and Yulee sit down with Steve Park, founder of Little Lights—a ministry that has spent almost 30 years serving children, youth…
Steve ParkGuest
Daniel LeeHost
Yuli LeeHost
And so can you tell us a little bit of of about how you do that? Like, you know, there's always always a risk of an outsider sort of swooping in.

we're all familiar with that to like quote unquote save a community you know but you've done certain things with your life you know you've chosen to make certain decisions about where you live where you hire from etc and so can you tell us a little bit about how you tackle both of these personal and systemic issues

One of the things that we do to tackle the systemic issues, we teach anti-racism workshops and classes.

That's especially geared for Christian audiences, using scripture to emphasize the importance of justice in order to get to unity and shalom and peace.

And so we teach about the history, we create safe spaces for conversations on a difficult topic like race.

I just felt like it was very much needed because we're serving in an African-American community.



And so it just felt like it was very important to teach people, including volunteers and people connected to the Lillardites, to try to educate as many people as possible to understand systemic racism.

yeah i have a follow-up question about that because in today's world uh it i'm assuming it must feel a little bit different to teach this kind of class you know right right now a lot of american christians especially white evangelicals are pushing back hard against exactly this kind of teaching and i'm curious if your experience around teaching this has changed significantly in this current climate or if you've had to adjust in any way

Yeah, I mean, this was like, you know, after Trayvon Martin and then Philando Castile happened.

And so can you tell us a little bit of of about how you do that? Like, you know, there's always always a risk of an outsider sort of swooping in.

we're all familiar with that to like quote unquote save a community you know but you've done certain things with your life you know you've chosen to make certain decisions about where you live where you hire from etc and so can you tell us a little bit about how you tackle both of these personal and systemic issues

One of the things that we do to tackle the systemic issues, we teach anti-racism workshops and classes.

That's especially geared for Christian audiences, using scripture to emphasize the importance of justice in order to get to unity and shalom and peace.

And so we teach about the history, we create safe spaces for conversations on a difficult topic like race.

I just felt like it was very much needed because we're serving in an African-American community.



And so it just felt like it was very important to teach people, including volunteers and people connected to the Lillardites, to try to educate as many people as possible to understand systemic racism.

yeah i have a follow-up question about that because in today's world uh it i'm assuming it must feel a little bit different to teach this kind of class you know right right now a lot of american christians especially white evangelicals are pushing back hard against exactly this kind of teaching and i'm curious if your experience around teaching this has changed significantly in this current climate or if you've had to adjust in any way

Yeah, I mean, this was like, you know, after Trayvon Martin and then Philando Castile happened.
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