CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet
Jun 1, 2026 · 41 min · 10 segments
In this first episode of a new seven-part series on CCEF's distinctives, Gunner Gundersen sits down with Ed Welch and Jonathan Holmes to discuss the first distinctive: "The personal God gets personal…
Ed WelchGuest
Gunner GundersenHostJonathan HolmesGuest
The triune God, Father, Son, and Spirit, has always known reciprocal fellowship and unity, and he has created us to participate in that fellowship.
Herein lies the source of our interest in relationships and human connection.
But can we unpack this a little bit? What stands out to, to both of you as you kind of rehear this distinctive and this description?
Yeah, I think one of the things that comes to mind when I hear that, and Gunnar, I agree, there's a, a warmth and a personableness that matches the distinctive itself.
But, you know, Keller was kind of, you know, just trying to show, do a little compare and contrast, uh, between Christianity and really all the other major world religions, uh, Greek and Roman mythology.
And, uh, in, in all of those settings, to some degree, you have gods or, you know, a god singular, but a god who remains very distant, uh, from the interest of things that are going on in the world, a, a god or gods who are, uh, manipulating, controlling, but who have very little interest in, you know, these little peons, as it were, that they've created.
And, uh, one of the things that, you know, scripture draws our attention to from the very beginning is God, our God is not like that.
Uh, we serve a God and we know a God who is intimately interested in the affairs of the people that he has made and created.
And, uh, even that, that language of he invites us to participate in fellowship with him, um, I think is so rich.
And that's something that I think you're gonna find laced all throughout CCF's materials is a God who is deeply aware and deeply interested, uh, in the people that he has created and that he wants to be in relationship with.
The triune God, Father, Son, and Spirit, has always known reciprocal fellowship and unity, and he has created us to participate in that fellowship.
Herein lies the source of our interest in relationships and human connection.
But can we unpack this a little bit? What stands out to, to both of you as you kind of rehear this distinctive and this description?
Yeah, I think one of the things that comes to mind when I hear that, and Gunnar, I agree, there's a, a warmth and a personableness that matches the distinctive itself.
But, you know, Keller was kind of, you know, just trying to show, do a little compare and contrast, uh, between Christianity and really all the other major world religions, uh, Greek and Roman mythology.
And, uh, in, in all of those settings, to some degree, you have gods or, you know, a god singular, but a god who remains very distant, uh, from the interest of things that are going on in the world, a, a god or gods who are, uh, manipulating, controlling, but who have very little interest in, you know, these little peons, as it were, that they've created.
And, uh, one of the things that, you know, scripture draws our attention to from the very beginning is God, our God is not like that.
Uh, we serve a God and we know a God who is intimately interested in the affairs of the people that he has made and created.
And, uh, even that, that language of he invites us to participate in fellowship with him, um, I think is so rich.
And that's something that I think you're gonna find laced all throughout CCF's materials is a God who is deeply aware and deeply interested, uh, in the people that he has created and that he wants to be in relationship with.
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