CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet
Jul 20, 2026 · 35 min · 11 segments
Our circumstances, emotions, and relationships all shape us, but they don't define us. At the center of who we are is something deeper: the heart. In this fourth episode of our series exploring…
Gunner GundersenHostJonathan HolmesGuest
Esther LiuGuest
Now, when we get to number four, our hearts are active, here's the description of this, uh, of this distinctive.

To know the heart is to know the person, and to know a person, you must know what he or she desires and loves.

Here we notice our movement toward right or wrong and the battle between the two.

These point to the very center of our lives where we face God or turn away from Him.

We are most fully human, and we grow progressively nearer to God when we listen to the words of the Father, believe in the Son, come to Christ because of the Spirit's work, turn from sin and death, and live in faith, hope, love, and wisdom.

Now, when we get to number four, our hearts are active, here's the description of this, uh, of this distinctive.

To know the heart is to know the person, and to know a person, you must know what he or she desires and loves.

Here we notice our movement toward right or wrong and the battle between the two.

These point to the very center of our lives where we face God or turn away from Him.

We are most fully human, and we grow progressively nearer to God when we listen to the words of the Father, believe in the Son, come to Christ because of the Spirit's work, turn from sin and death, and live in faith, hope, love, and wisdom.
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