Shayle KannHostSo, so look, I think, um, to start off with, right, I think it's important to keep in context that, like, batteries in general on the grid are a pretty new thing.
And so if you think about pre-2020, I think going into 2020, there was less than two gigawatts of total storage on the US grid.
And so, um, all of the growth in storage has happened over the last five years, so this is a nascent thing that we're dealing with in real time.
Of that, you know, roughly forty gigawatts of storage that's been added to the grid over the last five years, uh, something like ninety percent of it is utility scale, and ten percent is residential, and if you add ninety and ten, that gets to a hundred, which means that basically nothing is, is C&I.
Um, so look, I think, you know, the, the argument for utility scale storage is pretty easy to make and pretty, pretty easy to explain, um, which is, uh, utility scale storage on a per kilowatt hour basis is cheaper than C&I storage and cheaper than resi storage.
I think one of the really interesting things is why resi is ten percent of that and C&I is zero, and I think that has to do with the fact that a lot of resi storage isn't a purely economic decision.
Uh, but, you know, I think what we're gonna talk about is a lot has changed over the last 18 months, and I think we're now in a different place than we've ever been, and I'm pretty bullish on the future of the asset class.

So the core of your diagnosis, which I generally agree with, is that the economics just haven't been there, and as you said, there is a residential storage market, but it's, like, equal parts or maybe greater part resiliency-driven historically than economically driven.

Like, that's changing a little bit now, but, but again, as you said, it's a new thing.

Um, we should acknowledge the pioneers of the C&I storage world that, like, you know, pushed hard at it, like, a decade ago, right?

And they're, they were trying to make an economic value proposition there, which was...

You know, these were companies like Stem in the early days and Green Charge and AMS and things like that, and, you know, mostly what they were going after was C&I demand charge management.
So, so look, I think, um, to start off with, right, I think it's important to keep in context that, like, batteries in general on the grid are a pretty new thing.
And so if you think about pre-2020, I think going into 2020, there was less than two gigawatts of total storage on the US grid.
And so, um, all of the growth in storage has happened over the last five years, so this is a nascent thing that we're dealing with in real time.
Of that, you know, roughly forty gigawatts of storage that's been added to the grid over the last five years, uh, something like ninety percent of it is utility scale, and ten percent is residential, and if you add ninety and ten, that gets to a hundred, which means that basically nothing is, is C&I.
Um, so look, I think, you know, the, the argument for utility scale storage is pretty easy to make and pretty, pretty easy to explain, um, which is, uh, utility scale storage on a per kilowatt hour basis is cheaper than C&I storage and cheaper than resi storage.
I think one of the really interesting things is why resi is ten percent of that and C&I is zero, and I think that has to do with the fact that a lot of resi storage isn't a purely economic decision.
Uh, but, you know, I think what we're gonna talk about is a lot has changed over the last 18 months, and I think we're now in a different place than we've ever been, and I'm pretty bullish on the future of the asset class.

So the core of your diagnosis, which I generally agree with, is that the economics just haven't been there, and as you said, there is a residential storage market, but it's, like, equal parts or maybe greater part resiliency-driven historically than economically driven.

Like, that's changing a little bit now, but, but again, as you said, it's a new thing.

Um, we should acknowledge the pioneers of the C&I storage world that, like, you know, pushed hard at it, like, a decade ago, right?

And they're, they were trying to make an economic value proposition there, which was...

You know, these were companies like Stem in the early days and Green Charge and AMS and things like that, and, you know, mostly what they were going after was C&I demand charge management.
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