Jul 8, 2026 · 51 min · 13 segments
John Belizaire and his company's stock price have been on a roller coaster ride. Soluna connects clients with big computer processing needs to the energy to power those calculations. Because it was so…
John BelizaireGuest
Lionel FosterHost
We develop and operate data centers that are built directly at the source of power.

And one interesting thing is that those power plants... need us to connect there because they have lots of unused power, power that they can't monetize.

So what that means practically is instead of connecting to the grid to build data centers and waiting on a really long interconnection queue, especially these days with AI, We actually plugged directly into the generation resource, and that generation resource is far away from population centers and doesn't have a way to get all of its energy to those places.

And actually, even if it did, chances are there's just not enough consumption there to do that, and there certainly isn't enough consumption at the local place to do that.

But this approach creates a unique opportunity because we give our customers much faster time to power because we're bypassing these queues, right? We go directly to that power plant.

And some people say, well, most of the costs in these AI data centers is not energy, so that's not really helping.

but what people forget and as I'm sure we'll talk about is sort of how technology waves happen and how they mature.

And it gives us, you know, more operational control, you know, Things that basically other ways to connect to the grid to build data centers can't really match.

So we've got something fairly unique here and we call it renewable computing.


It boggles my mind that, you know, we started 300 megawatts or something like that, and now we're four times a gigawatt.

We develop and operate data centers that are built directly at the source of power.

And one interesting thing is that those power plants... need us to connect there because they have lots of unused power, power that they can't monetize.

So what that means practically is instead of connecting to the grid to build data centers and waiting on a really long interconnection queue, especially these days with AI, We actually plugged directly into the generation resource, and that generation resource is far away from population centers and doesn't have a way to get all of its energy to those places.

And actually, even if it did, chances are there's just not enough consumption there to do that, and there certainly isn't enough consumption at the local place to do that.

But this approach creates a unique opportunity because we give our customers much faster time to power because we're bypassing these queues, right? We go directly to that power plant.

And some people say, well, most of the costs in these AI data centers is not energy, so that's not really helping.

but what people forget and as I'm sure we'll talk about is sort of how technology waves happen and how they mature.

And it gives us, you know, more operational control, you know, Things that basically other ways to connect to the grid to build data centers can't really match.

So we've got something fairly unique here and we call it renewable computing.


It boggles my mind that, you know, we started 300 megawatts or something like that, and now we're four times a gigawatt.
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