#252 The Truth Was I'd Never Been the Problem, with Jane Phipps

There's a line in Jane Phipps's book where she recognises that she'd never been the problem, she'd always been enough. Many senior women will recognise the feeling behind that sentence. Jane is the author of The Heart-Centered Leader, a single mother who built her career through male-dominated industries, two rounds of workplace bullying, and a breakdown that finally forced her to stop. In this conversation she and Melissa talk about the difference between command-and-control leadership and heart-centred leadership, what it actually feels like to be "in a cage" at work, and how she learned to tell the difference between self-criticism and self-reflection. Guest: Jane Phipps, author of The Heart-Centered Leader. In this episode: - The line from Jane's book that opens the conversation, and the childhood behind it - Her first experience of heart-centred leadership, in the defence industry of all places - What it felt like to be "in a cage" for eight years in a large Australian corporate - The frog in boiling water: how you normalise treatment until it becomes unbearable - Self-criticism versus self-reflection, and what changed once she stopped beating herself up - How to hold people accountable without abandoning a heart-centred approach - What she'd tell her younger self about dipping a toe in the water instead of staying silent Jane's book, The Heart-Centered Leader, is available now. https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/1764035623   LISTEN & CONNECT: Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/oob3YS1puu8 Connect with Melissa on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/brave-feminine-leadership   WORK WITH US: // The Executive Shift: An 8-week intensive for senior women ready to be recognised for judgement, not just delivery. https://bravefeminineleadership.com/the-executive-shift  // INFLUENCE Mastermind: A 6-month peer advisory room for women at the top.  https://calendly.com/the-brave-group/influence-enquiry-call // 1:1 Executive Coaching: Work directly with Melissa. https://calendly.com/the-brave-group/executive-coaching