ALAN POUL - Emmy & Golden Globe-winning Producer/Director - Tokyo Vice - Six Feet Under - Tales of the City - My So-Called Life · Books & Writers: Novelists, Screenwriters, Poets, Journalists, Playwrights, Non-fiction Writers & Showrunners Talk Writing, Creativity & The Creative Process · Radar

AI and the Future of Creativity1:04:02 – 1:08:35

1:04:02

And now those instincts that you've built up and you've been guided along the way by your mentors, the industry is changing in terms of the AI revolution and kind of imagination is being outsourced.

1:04:14

I wonder what your reflections are on that creating in the AI age.

1:04:19

I have to say, you know, I've been working for many years and so I'm very glad that AI is coming in this relatively late stage in my career because I don't know quite what to make of it.

1:04:31

I just last night, I had some friends over to watch the first two episodes of the season on TV.

1:04:38

And afterwards we were talking and one of my friends, he works in digital tech and he understands AI far greater than I will ever do.

1:04:46

But he just showed the latest iteration of ChatGPT if you have the 4.0, you know, paywall version.

1:04:53

And he asked a question about the history of Tokyo Vice to his ChatGPT.

1:05:01

I want you to tell me about the factual background of Tokyo Vice and and how did Jake Adelson come to write the book? But I want you to tell it to me as if you are a drag queen.

1:05:12

And you go, beep, beep, beep, beep, like five seconds.

1:05:15

And what came out was a very scholarly fetus about how Jake came to Japan and how Jake wrote the book and all the problems that Jake faced uncovering this story.

1:05:25

But it was being told like, and honey, I got to tell you what happened next.

1:05:30

He didn't just sip the tea.

1:05:31

He spilled the tea all over the table.

1:05:33

And it was like, Mind you, it wasn't a very good facsimile of a drag queen, but the fact that my iPhone was talking to me that way while delivering all these facts that had been gathered in less than 10 seconds, I was like, okay, we're really in for it because there are whole professions that are involved in finding information that are just going to go away.

1:05:56

And so I think we're just beginning to realize chat GPT came on the market less than a year and a half ago.

1:06:02

and look at how far it has evolved since then.

1:06:05

And that's, you know, less than 18 months.

1:06:07

So when you think about two, three years down the line, I can't say.

1:06:10

Are human beings going to still be writing things? Yes.

1:06:13

But are human beings going to be using AI In order to get first drafts of things or in order to come up with ideas for things? Yes, absolutely.

1:06:23

The entire creative media landscape is about to be drastically transformed.

1:06:28

And I can't say if it's for better or worse since I'm old school.

1:06:32

I'm going to say that I have a hunch it'll be for worse in terms of quality entertainment.

1:06:37

But I don't know that.

1:06:38

Yeah, I think as long as the final editing and interpretation is done by humans, because I think that we need the space, the air that you get in Tokyo Vice.

AI and the Future of Creativity1:04:02 – 1:08:35

1:04:02

And now those instincts that you've built up and you've been guided along the way by your mentors, the industry is changing in terms of the AI revolution and kind of imagination is being outsourced.

1:04:14

I wonder what your reflections are on that creating in the AI age.

1:04:19

I have to say, you know, I've been working for many years and so I'm very glad that AI is coming in this relatively late stage in my career because I don't know quite what to make of it.

1:04:31

I just last night, I had some friends over to watch the first two episodes of the season on TV.

1:04:38

And afterwards we were talking and one of my friends, he works in digital tech and he understands AI far greater than I will ever do.

1:04:46

But he just showed the latest iteration of ChatGPT if you have the 4.0, you know, paywall version.

1:04:53

And he asked a question about the history of Tokyo Vice to his ChatGPT.

1:05:01

I want you to tell me about the factual background of Tokyo Vice and and how did Jake Adelson come to write the book? But I want you to tell it to me as if you are a drag queen.

1:05:12

And you go, beep, beep, beep, beep, like five seconds.

1:05:15

And what came out was a very scholarly fetus about how Jake came to Japan and how Jake wrote the book and all the problems that Jake faced uncovering this story.

1:05:25

But it was being told like, and honey, I got to tell you what happened next.

1:05:30

He didn't just sip the tea.

1:05:31

He spilled the tea all over the table.

1:05:33

And it was like, Mind you, it wasn't a very good facsimile of a drag queen, but the fact that my iPhone was talking to me that way while delivering all these facts that had been gathered in less than 10 seconds, I was like, okay, we're really in for it because there are whole professions that are involved in finding information that are just going to go away.

1:05:56

And so I think we're just beginning to realize chat GPT came on the market less than a year and a half ago.

1:06:02

and look at how far it has evolved since then.

1:06:05

And that's, you know, less than 18 months.

1:06:07

So when you think about two, three years down the line, I can't say.

1:06:10

Are human beings going to still be writing things? Yes.

1:06:13

But are human beings going to be using AI In order to get first drafts of things or in order to come up with ideas for things? Yes, absolutely.

1:06:23

The entire creative media landscape is about to be drastically transformed.

1:06:28

And I can't say if it's for better or worse since I'm old school.

1:06:32

I'm going to say that I have a hunch it'll be for worse in terms of quality entertainment.

1:06:37

But I don't know that.

1:06:38

Yeah, I think as long as the final editing and interpretation is done by humans, because I think that we need the space, the air that you get in Tokyo Vice.