Big Stuff With Danielle Colley
Sep 16, 2026 · 1 hr 11 min · 13 segments
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I wish I could tell you that it had changed so significantly and the mental load was so widely shared or equally shared.

I want to say though, like for anyone who doesn't know what true crime means, like you weren't just writing crime fiction.

getting obsessed with a crime and digging into it from a million different angles that had maybe been considered.

Some of them were solved, but prisoners, the, you know, the perpetrators were coming up for parole.

Talk to me about the first one and how did that happen? How did it get under your skin?
And he talked about all of the qualities and components you needed for the right story.
And I was literally at Teacher Professional Development, and they told the story that I ended up writing a book on.
So Teacher Professional Development was around a program set up for kids of divorced parents.
And research had shown that within the trauma of divorce, sometimes the kid's weren't, you know, none of them was checking in on the kids because the trauma for the adults was too great, you know, and there was this assumption that they'll be fine.
And so they told the story of a woman called Vivian, whose father had left when she was eight and when her own son just turned eight.
She found out her husband Fergus was having an affair and one night she just snapped and she went and killed the girlfriend, Beth, and then suicided and her body was never found.
And so the family, and I never found out who in the family, but the family had put money into or sponsored this program so that Teachers would be trained to take kids of divorce sort of out maybe once a fortnight and just kind of sit and have a biscuit and have a chat about how things were going.
But, you know, I guess all the other teachers were sitting there thinking, wow, that sounds like a really good idea.

of that family, very gracious of that family to recognize that this is a woman who had stuff as opposed to she's just she's a psychopath.

I wish I could tell you that it had changed so significantly and the mental load was so widely shared or equally shared.

I want to say though, like for anyone who doesn't know what true crime means, like you weren't just writing crime fiction.

getting obsessed with a crime and digging into it from a million different angles that had maybe been considered.

Some of them were solved, but prisoners, the, you know, the perpetrators were coming up for parole.

Talk to me about the first one and how did that happen? How did it get under your skin?
And he talked about all of the qualities and components you needed for the right story.
And I was literally at Teacher Professional Development, and they told the story that I ended up writing a book on.
So Teacher Professional Development was around a program set up for kids of divorced parents.
And research had shown that within the trauma of divorce, sometimes the kid's weren't, you know, none of them was checking in on the kids because the trauma for the adults was too great, you know, and there was this assumption that they'll be fine.
And so they told the story of a woman called Vivian, whose father had left when she was eight and when her own son just turned eight.
She found out her husband Fergus was having an affair and one night she just snapped and she went and killed the girlfriend, Beth, and then suicided and her body was never found.
And so the family, and I never found out who in the family, but the family had put money into or sponsored this program so that Teachers would be trained to take kids of divorce sort of out maybe once a fortnight and just kind of sit and have a biscuit and have a chat about how things were going.
But, you know, I guess all the other teachers were sitting there thinking, wow, that sounds like a really good idea.

of that family, very gracious of that family to recognize that this is a woman who had stuff as opposed to she's just she's a psychopath.
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