Casefile

listen to this podcast? Well, that's not really a fair question because I don't listen to podcasts.

[laughs] The only podcasts I listen to are Casefile and recently I have gotten sucked into the swirl of this Pablo Torre Finds Out.

Right.

Um, the investigation into whether or not Steve Ballmer circumvented the salary cap to bring Kawhi Leonard to- Yeah ...

You've written in nonfiction forever.

You have the Casefile podcast.

I just avowed you later's book.

fiction as well, which I can't wait to get into.

And when Serial came out and when The Teacher's Pet came out, of course, because true crime is my thing, nine million people said to me, oh, my God, have you listened to Serial and have you listened to Teacher's Pet? So, of course, you know, okay, I'll figure out how to load the podcast.

And so I listened to both of those podcasts.

And then Casefile got in touch.

So it wasn't a podcast.

any drink, beverage, snack, whatever you want and just listen to you talk about your amazing career because she's so soothing when she speaks as well.

So come meet us, meet Vicki, meet Casey from Casefile and the rest of the crew.

Go to CrimeWaveAtSea.com and use code Sinister.

And if you're going, head to the Discord on Patreon.

We had done by that stage, we had done a whole bunch of, I'd done several podcast series and Frankston was on its way.

Um, And we were approached because I was working for Case File and we were approached by the Australian Central Police to write their podcast, to produce their podcast.

And I became the writer researcher.

But again, before that came out, we had to sign an NDA to not talk about it before it came out.

I just can't name any other podcast, to be honest.

I can name Casefile.

Shout out to Casey.

Of Casefile.

Shut up, Casey.

The host, if you don't know this, but the host of Casefile is anonymous, and so he's being dubbed Casey.

Okay, right.

Casey of Casefile.

I'll tell you what I think, and I might be wrong here, Chips.

I don't think we've ever discussed exactly what did it, but I think for me it was when I would take my lunch breaks at the shop and I would come over and sit in the warehouse and listen to Casefile episodes with you and Bill.

Just listen to the East Bay rapist calling people.

I had some dark, dark fucking lunch break.

Me and Chips would just be sitting there, complete silence.

We wouldn't share a word.

I'd walk in, he'd nod at me, and we'd hit play on the latest Casefile, and we'd just sit there and listen to someone getting tortured to death.

death