Peter Bulut

you just said, you know, listening to other ideas in a sense.

Um, how would you describe your leadership style and has it changed since the early days to what it is now?

I don't know.

I think you have to ask longer term employees if I've changed cause I, I don't feel so.

Um,

I think you have.

You're more hands-off, if you will.

You let the people do what they think is right for the most part.

Oh, for sure.

Yeah, definitely I was going to get to that on the hands-off side, but it's mutual respect and caring.

It's not, I'm not a super capitalistic, like, you know, we got to grow.

I need the numbers out of you, you little piece of crap.

Like, you know, it's very chill and it's very collaborative.

And I think, you know, for instance, if it was for sales and it's not going the right direction, it's like, what's going on? Like, how can we help? What can we do? How can...

What do you need to make it happen? And just sort of encouraging others to come into the conversation, the picture.

I'm pretty open book, sometimes maybe too much.

And I always thought to myself, if you're very open book and very trusting, then the people that... trust you, we'll understand it and then follow along.

The ones that want to take advantage and screw you, then they're going to do that and we'll get to that and they'll be gone.

Yeah,

well, one of our core values is accountability and we say, you know, trust is accountability.

Breed trust and people will respect you and people will follow you and work with you.

Let's move over to beer because it'd be hard to do a podcast with you and not talk about our beer.

We have put out hundreds, if not thousands of different beers over the 38 years.

Um, if you could bring back a few that we haven't done in a while, any ideas of what they'd be?

Um, There's a few.