Oct 11, 2026 · 49 min · 10 segments
What do we inherit from the world and the people in it, and what do we do with it? In this episode, Leanne and Chelle talk with Ellena Savage about her debut novel, *The Ruiners*. Pip is a university…
Ellena SavageGuestLeanneHostChelleHostI was telling my daughter this morning, dropping her off to school, and she's 11.
She was saying, who's got something exciting today? And she was telling me what she had.
And I said, oh, I'm interviewing the author of the lobster book because she's seen me reading it.
And she's like, why is there a lobster claw? And at the beginning, I was like, I don't know.
But, yeah, so there you go.
She's got a little bit of context that I get to meet you today, so that's exciting.
It's a superb cover.
My kids noticed it too because I had a plane in the car.
I did it on audio and audio.
paper copy and um and my kids were like oh why what what's that why is why is that there what's that about and had a great discussion so my catching perfect for the bookshelves in the stores
done
You created the inspiration for it, so you did do it with your team.
Yeah.
Okay, so Leanne, shall I talk a bit about Eleanor and then you can do the blurb? Yeah, that
sounds good.
Okay, Eleanor Savage is the author of the critically acclaimed essay collection Blueberries.
Her stories and essays have been published widely and supported by numerous grants and residential fellowships.
The Ruiners is Eleanor's first novel appearing with Summit Books in Australia and Catapult Books in the US.
That's great that you've been published in both for a debut.
That's impressive.
I was telling my daughter this morning, dropping her off to school, and she's 11.
She was saying, who's got something exciting today? And she was telling me what she had.
And I said, oh, I'm interviewing the author of the lobster book because she's seen me reading it.
And she's like, why is there a lobster claw? And at the beginning, I was like, I don't know.
But, yeah, so there you go.
She's got a little bit of context that I get to meet you today, so that's exciting.
It's a superb cover.
My kids noticed it too because I had a plane in the car.
I did it on audio and audio.
paper copy and um and my kids were like oh why what what's that why is why is that there what's that about and had a great discussion so my catching perfect for the bookshelves in the stores
done
You created the inspiration for it, so you did do it with your team.
Yeah.
Okay, so Leanne, shall I talk a bit about Eleanor and then you can do the blurb? Yeah, that
sounds good.
Okay, Eleanor Savage is the author of the critically acclaimed essay collection Blueberries.
Her stories and essays have been published widely and supported by numerous grants and residential fellowships.
The Ruiners is Eleanor's first novel appearing with Summit Books in Australia and Catapult Books in the US.
That's great that you've been published in both for a debut.
That's impressive.
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