Oct 19, 2026 · 47 min · 8 segments
In this episode, Leanne and Chelle talk with Kimberley Allsopp about her second novel. It follows August and Noah, a Brisbane couple who have been together for over a decade. Nothing has gone terribly…
I think it is really interesting to think about that idea of, yeah, when everything is just fine because we do read a lot of romance and, yeah, it's great.
But then when you've been married for 20 years, you're not kind of thinking maybe I'll meet my person tomorrow because you've already done that.
So whereas books like this that are kind of talking about then like when two people in the relationship have changed along the way and you still like each other, but here you are and you're a bit the same and you're a bit different, then What next? Yeah, so it was great to read a book that kind of explored all of those issues, I thought.
I think August and Noah, and Noah more because it's forced upon him, but are very brave in that decision.
Yeah.
August had like a few different well there are a few different things that are impacted by those changes as well and August kind of had a bit of a I was thinking about her career and what she wanted to do with that and also then people have had friends for a long time when you've been a couple for a long time and so then you think about what is that going to look like afterwards as well.
So, yeah, a few things that were explored there.
The lemon tree was kind of Noah's thing though, wasn't it? How did you...
Well, did you see that kind of playing a bit of a like symbolism of growth or were you just kind of inspired by your own lemon tree?
look, I really wanted that lemon tree.
I haven't spoken to my accountant to see if I can claim that back on tax if it's in a book.
But,
Do you know, I just I am not big on metaphors necessarily because I feel like they can sometimes be kind of clunky I think look obviously look I love lemons and I'm jealously looking at you sipping your lemon tea right now but I just wanted Noah to do something and take some agency and actually do something.
And I thought that that would probably end up actually in quite a frenzied thing, which it is for him.
Like he just gets that in his head and it's like the record's going around and he's on that one line and he can't skip and that just keeps going.
Adam.
I think it is really interesting to think about that idea of, yeah, when everything is just fine because we do read a lot of romance and, yeah, it's great.
But then when you've been married for 20 years, you're not kind of thinking maybe I'll meet my person tomorrow because you've already done that.
So whereas books like this that are kind of talking about then like when two people in the relationship have changed along the way and you still like each other, but here you are and you're a bit the same and you're a bit different, then What next? Yeah, so it was great to read a book that kind of explored all of those issues, I thought.
I think August and Noah, and Noah more because it's forced upon him, but are very brave in that decision.
Yeah.
August had like a few different well there are a few different things that are impacted by those changes as well and August kind of had a bit of a I was thinking about her career and what she wanted to do with that and also then people have had friends for a long time when you've been a couple for a long time and so then you think about what is that going to look like afterwards as well.
So, yeah, a few things that were explored there.
The lemon tree was kind of Noah's thing though, wasn't it? How did you...
Well, did you see that kind of playing a bit of a like symbolism of growth or were you just kind of inspired by your own lemon tree?
look, I really wanted that lemon tree.
I haven't spoken to my accountant to see if I can claim that back on tax if it's in a book.
But,
Do you know, I just I am not big on metaphors necessarily because I feel like they can sometimes be kind of clunky I think look obviously look I love lemons and I'm jealously looking at you sipping your lemon tea right now but I just wanted Noah to do something and take some agency and actually do something.
And I thought that that would probably end up actually in quite a frenzied thing, which it is for him.
Like he just gets that in his head and it's like the record's going around and he's on that one line and he can't skip and that just keeps going.
Adam.
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