Sep 13, 2026 · 42 min · 9 segments
What happens to the parts of ourselves we put aside when we become who everyone else needs us to be? In this episode of *Between The Lines*, Leanne is joined by author and psychologist Lauren Keegan…
Lauren KeeganGuestLeanneHostAnd what drew you to the, the selkie myths? I was describing them to my daughter yesterday about, yeah, like shape-shifting women who...
I, I think it said it in the original part about your book there, but who kind of maybe were seals and, and came out to, to be women on land and then eventually maybe went back into the ocean, is how I described it to her.
But what drew you to those myths? And correct me if I've got the details wrong.

I, I think when I read that story, I was already, um, in the midst of drafting my, my debut novel, so I was thinking about, you know, folklore and what I might write about next.
Mm

... what's underneath them that really kind of spoke to me, and there are a couple of elements, but the main ones w- one was just that this, this woman who had her seal skin stolen by a lonely fisherman, um, who just found her seducing, and, um, so she kind of can't return to the sea.

But upon discovering her seal skin, she immediately returns to the sea, and she leaves behind her grieving husband and children.

And I think for me, it was like underneath that, um, that that pull to herse- her former self, her identity, you know, the, the, the other part of her soul that was so strong that there was no choice for her, that she immediately kind of returned to that.

And I think, you know, uh, uh, being a mother mysel- my, a mother myself, but also working with mothers, um, for, you know, a decade and a half, I felt like it's something that is relatable, that when we become mothers-
Mm-hmm

We c- and we gain a lot of other things as well, but there's part of your identity that you can kind of never get back because you become a new person.

Um, and there can be loss that comes with that, and yearning and resentment and guilt, and lots of those kind of other emotions as well.

There was something in that part of the selkie tales that I felt like, oh, there's something that I could work with, um, and thinking about a, you know, a woman's experience and what that might be like.
Mm.
Yeah.
I can see that.
And what drew you to the, the selkie myths? I was describing them to my daughter yesterday about, yeah, like shape-shifting women who...
I, I think it said it in the original part about your book there, but who kind of maybe were seals and, and came out to, to be women on land and then eventually maybe went back into the ocean, is how I described it to her.
But what drew you to those myths? And correct me if I've got the details wrong.

I, I think when I read that story, I was already, um, in the midst of drafting my, my debut novel, so I was thinking about, you know, folklore and what I might write about next.
Mm

... what's underneath them that really kind of spoke to me, and there are a couple of elements, but the main ones w- one was just that this, this woman who had her seal skin stolen by a lonely fisherman, um, who just found her seducing, and, um, so she kind of can't return to the sea.

But upon discovering her seal skin, she immediately returns to the sea, and she leaves behind her grieving husband and children.

And I think for me, it was like underneath that, um, that that pull to herse- her former self, her identity, you know, the, the, the other part of her soul that was so strong that there was no choice for her, that she immediately kind of returned to that.

And I think, you know, uh, uh, being a mother mysel- my, a mother myself, but also working with mothers, um, for, you know, a decade and a half, I felt like it's something that is relatable, that when we become mothers-
Mm-hmm

We c- and we gain a lot of other things as well, but there's part of your identity that you can kind of never get back because you become a new person.

Um, and there can be loss that comes with that, and yearning and resentment and guilt, and lots of those kind of other emotions as well.

There was something in that part of the selkie tales that I felt like, oh, there's something that I could work with, um, and thinking about a, you know, a woman's experience and what that might be like.
Mm.
Yeah.
I can see that.
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