Mary Beth Keane, Whale Harbor

Something you talk about too in this, in terms of emotion and the way people convey emotion or, you know, the feelings of, I think you described it as being sad or having the feeling of sadness.

And

that so kind of spoke to me of kind of this removal or stoicism that exists with so many of these people.

And I feel like from Mac in a lot of ways, it's really his wife that helps him

Because she

understands.

She gets it and softens her edges.

Yeah.

She gets it and she's from the same place, which I think helps.

But I do think a lot, and I mean, I've been thinking about this ever since I was young.

Like the way that we talk about things, even our sentence construction is so revealing of what we think.

You know, even at an age where you learn about...

Your sentences, I remember early creative writing workshops, you know, my writing was too passive.

You know, I would remove the subject from the sentence.

And changing around your grammar, making sentences more direct, changes how you look at things.

And that's the same with Irish language.

Once I read about that difference, like, I am sad, I am happy in the U.S.

If you translate Irish and it says, it really means sadness is upon me, today but it's temporary the implication is it it's not me the sadness is upon me but it is not me same with happiness though it's such an american thing to think am i happy but am i happy in this career in this marriage in this life it's like well Sometimes yes, sometimes no, but that is the way it is.

So anyone seeking a permanent state of happiness, I always feel like is inevitably going to be really disappointed.

It just doesn't work that way.

Yeah, I had a shrink one say that to me too, where he said, Feelings are like clouds.

They're moving through.

It's not that, you know, to say I'm happy or I'm sad or I'm sad because of this.

All of these things pass.

It's just in this moment.