Sep 30, 2026 · 59 min · 10 segments
What if the very structures you've built to protect yourself are preventing you from experiencing the wealth you're calling in? In this episode of Becoming Wealth, Jessie and Mike explore Saturn…
Shadow MikeHostJessie CaeHostToday we're getting into some Saturn, which is like the architecture of enough, I think.
So we both did some very, I think we need to do this every time where we do, like we just do deep dives and then we come in because your deep dive is so different from my deep dive.

Well, I look at it through the lens of how people moving through deconstruction tend to lose structure.

And because there is this leaving of something that felt almost so restrictive, But we need structure, and it creates a void, a vacuum in our lives where we have all this energy, all this freedom and vitality, but then there's nowhere to really put it.

And I think that's because in the mythology, what I call the common Christian myth kind of encapsulates that.


And because one is all good and one is all evil, we tend to prefer one over the other, but it confuses us into knowing when structure is good, when structure is bad.

And so I'm curious about this idea of integrating this archetype, reintegrating this archetype, because I think it has our enoughness locked inside
And I mean, if I were to choose a through line, it would be like the question that really comes up for me is, can you actually hold what it is that you're asking for? Which requires structure, one might say, you know, and I think when we were trying to figure out what this all this meant, we were really drawn towards structure.
Did you by any chance look at the mythology? Because I always like looking at the actual myth around the archetype.
Because whenever I sit with it, I'm like, huh, it's not quite what I was told it was about.
it's it's big daddy yeah father time big daddy just like keeping us in line um but that's not what the myth starts as it's always fascinating like how do we get to this point where like this is the only thing it's known for

yeah and that is the lesson that had to be learned too much I want to know, I want to hear though, it sounds like you did, like what did you discover
Today we're getting into some Saturn, which is like the architecture of enough, I think.
So we both did some very, I think we need to do this every time where we do, like we just do deep dives and then we come in because your deep dive is so different from my deep dive.

Well, I look at it through the lens of how people moving through deconstruction tend to lose structure.

And because there is this leaving of something that felt almost so restrictive, But we need structure, and it creates a void, a vacuum in our lives where we have all this energy, all this freedom and vitality, but then there's nowhere to really put it.

And I think that's because in the mythology, what I call the common Christian myth kind of encapsulates that.


And because one is all good and one is all evil, we tend to prefer one over the other, but it confuses us into knowing when structure is good, when structure is bad.

And so I'm curious about this idea of integrating this archetype, reintegrating this archetype, because I think it has our enoughness locked inside
And I mean, if I were to choose a through line, it would be like the question that really comes up for me is, can you actually hold what it is that you're asking for? Which requires structure, one might say, you know, and I think when we were trying to figure out what this all this meant, we were really drawn towards structure.
Did you by any chance look at the mythology? Because I always like looking at the actual myth around the archetype.
Because whenever I sit with it, I'm like, huh, it's not quite what I was told it was about.
it's it's big daddy yeah father time big daddy just like keeping us in line um but that's not what the myth starts as it's always fascinating like how do we get to this point where like this is the only thing it's known for

yeah and that is the lesson that had to be learned too much I want to know, I want to hear though, it sounds like you did, like what did you discover
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