Nov 4, 2026 · 48 min · 18 segments
More than three years after Jay's last known sighting, some in the family suspect foul play. Police explain why they haven't charged Patty with a crime. Then, a strange phone call leads to a new…
Jason MoonHost
It was also getting to the person in charge of the investigating, Epsom Police Chief Brian Michael.
You know, I've never seen anything like it in my career.
I don't understand how your husband can go missing for a significant amount of time.
And how you could not report your husband missing is absolutely beyond anything ethically or morally that I can comprehend.
He's the one who plopped the investigative file on the desk for dramatic effect when interrogating Patty.
Chief Michael has been a police officer in Epsom since 2001, steadily climbing the ranks until he made chief of police in 2022, just two years before Jay was reported missing.
When Chief Michael built his house in Epsom, Jay was the zoning officer who approved the construction.
And like so many others, when it came time to get his family's Christmas tree, Chief Michael drove up McCoy Mountain to Jay's farm.
He was just a nice guy that was lost in the 60s.
Just the long hair, you know, the big mustache and loved his Christmas trees.
More than anyone else, Chief Michael had confronted Patty about her explanations for Jay's disappearance.
With mounting frustration, he had meticulously dissected for her the many ways her story just didn't add up.
You pushed her pretty hard in that second interrogation, and she kept returning to that notion that he was just very private and wouldn't have wanted the police involved.
Yeah, I don't believe that.
That simple.
And as you may remember, he told Patty that without some explanation about all this that made sense, he'd have to pursue the matter criminally.
But pretty quickly, Chief Michael's threat to charge Patty with a crime encountered an interesting question.
It was also getting to the person in charge of the investigating, Epsom Police Chief Brian Michael.
You know, I've never seen anything like it in my career.
I don't understand how your husband can go missing for a significant amount of time.
And how you could not report your husband missing is absolutely beyond anything ethically or morally that I can comprehend.
He's the one who plopped the investigative file on the desk for dramatic effect when interrogating Patty.
Chief Michael has been a police officer in Epsom since 2001, steadily climbing the ranks until he made chief of police in 2022, just two years before Jay was reported missing.
When Chief Michael built his house in Epsom, Jay was the zoning officer who approved the construction.
And like so many others, when it came time to get his family's Christmas tree, Chief Michael drove up McCoy Mountain to Jay's farm.
He was just a nice guy that was lost in the 60s.
Just the long hair, you know, the big mustache and loved his Christmas trees.
More than anyone else, Chief Michael had confronted Patty about her explanations for Jay's disappearance.
With mounting frustration, he had meticulously dissected for her the many ways her story just didn't add up.
You pushed her pretty hard in that second interrogation, and she kept returning to that notion that he was just very private and wouldn't have wanted the police involved.
Yeah, I don't believe that.
That simple.
And as you may remember, he told Patty that without some explanation about all this that made sense, he'd have to pursue the matter criminally.
But pretty quickly, Chief Michael's threat to charge Patty with a crime encountered an interesting question.
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